Can my PSU support it?

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  1. Posts : 22
    Windows 7/Ubuntu
       #1

    Can my PSU support it?


    Alright so my current system is a

    Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 2.7GHz
    Geforce 9500 GT
    1 Sata
    1 DVD
    2 Sticks of DDR2 667MHz


    I would like to Upgrade to a AMD Phenom X4 9850, with a 450W PSU, (Motherboards are practicably identical).

    I already check the extreme PSU calculator but it said only about 275W which makes me a little bit skeptical. So what wold you say?
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  2. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #2

    Under load, the Phenom uses 311 watts - 185 watts at idle. Add that to the 9500GT, and you may be over the limit.
    But why do you want to "downgrade" from a 2.7GHz CPU to a 2.5GHz CPU. Don't expect too much from the 4 cores because most programs will not be using them. I am very disappointed with my quad processor. My slightly faster duo core is better.

    PS: The wattage was measured by a German computer mag
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  3. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #3

    For what it is worth:

    AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition review

    which says:

    So in combo with a fully build system with the Radeon HD 3870 active, we idle at 170 Watt, that's quite a lot actually.

    Once we stress the 4 CPU cores we peak at 246 Watt, when we start to play a game we peak at 269 Watt.

    Once we overclock the processor towards 3 GHz we see an idle power consumption of 215 Watt, 321 Watt when we stress the 4 CPU cores, and measured while playing some games we peak towards 334 Watt.

    So your PSU looks OK to me.
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  4. whs
    Posts : 26,210
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       #4

    ignatzatsonic said:
    For what it is worth:

    AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition review

    which says:

    So in combo with a fully build system with the Radeon HD 3870 active, we idle at 170 Watt, that's quite a lot actually.

    Once we stress the 4 CPU cores we peak at 246 Watt, when we start to play a game we peak at 269 Watt.

    Once we overclock the processor towards 3 GHz we see an idle power consumption of 215 Watt, 321 Watt when we stress the 4 CPU cores, and measured while playing some games we peak towards 334 Watt.

    So your PSU looks OK to me.
    What about the 9500GT that needs a minimum of 400 watts setup itself.
    Last edited by whs; 13 Jul 2010 at 16:13. Reason: clarification
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  5. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #5

    whs said:
    What about the 9500GT that needs a minimum of 400 watts itself.
    I certainly have no personal knowledge, but Nvidia says 50 watts--unless I am completely confused--always possible:

    GeForce 9500 GT: a graphics card perfect for the ultimate 3D user experience and playing the latest PC games.

    Thermal and Power Specs:
    Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 105 C
    Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) 50 W
    Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 350 W
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  6. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #6

    I was always under the impression the recommended wattage a GPU gives is taking into account the rest of the system. (Recommended System Power for a typical mainstream setup that is)

    Not actually what the card needs itself.
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  7. whs
    Posts : 26,210
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       #7

    Wishmaster said:
    I was always under the impression the recommended wattage a GPU gives is taking into account the rest of the system. (Recommended System Power for a typical mainstream setup that is)

    Not actually what the card needs itself.
    That is correct. But the key here is " typical mainstream setup ". The CPU that we are talking about is a particularily intensive power user. So I think we are outside a "typical" setup. Maybe I am just too prudent in power matters, but better be safe than sorry.
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  8. Posts : 22
    Windows 7/Ubuntu
    Thread Starter
       #8

    whs said:
    Under load, the Phenom uses 311 watts - 185 watts at idle. Add that to the 9500GT, and you may be over the limit.
    But why do you want to "downgrade" from a 2.7GHz CPU to a 2.5GHz CPU. Don't expect too much from the 4 cores because most programs will not be using them. I am very disappointed with my quad processor. My slightly faster duo core is better.

    PS: The wattage was measured by a German computer mag
    Well to start I can actually get the quad core for the same price. Belive it or not,

    In a benchmarking test my 2.7Ghz Pentium scored 1800

    While the Phenom scored a 2966. Its close to double of the Pentium.

    Also if I were upgrading what would be a recommended PSU Wattage?
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  9. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #9

    whs said:
    Wishmaster said:
    I was always under the impression the recommended wattage a GPU gives is taking into account the rest of the system. (Recommended System Power for a typical mainstream setup that is)

    Not actually what the card needs itself.
    That is correct. But the key here is " typical mainstream setup ". The CPU that we are talking about is a particularily intensive power user. So I think we are outside a "typical" setup. Maybe I am just too prudent in power matters, but better be safe than sorry.
    I misunderstood the original question then.

    I agree with you. But the wattage I think it depends greatly on the type of PSU as well.
    A good 450-550W would be plenty I would think.


    Kidfork,
    I personally prefer Corsair PSUs. But there are a few other good quality ones.
    I believe something like a 450W Corasir would be enough, but I would go with a 500-550W simply because youll have more headroom for future upgrades.

    Main thing is get a good PSU (whichever brand you choose), and look more at the 12V rail amperage and effeciency.
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  10. Posts : 2,606
    Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
       #10

    whs said:
    Under load, the Phenom uses 311 watts - 185 watts at idle. Add that to the 9500GT, and you may be over the limit.
    But why do you want to "downgrade" from a 2.7GHz CPU to a 2.5GHz CPU. Don't expect too much from the 4 cores because most programs will not be using them. I am very disappointed with my quad processor. My slightly faster duo core is better.

    PS: The wattage was measured by a German computer mag
    That must be a total system power. The 9850 is rated at 125W TDP.

    AMD Phenomâ„¢ Model Number and Feature Comparisons

    The 9500GT doesn't use any auxiliary power connectors, so it must use less than 75W (rated max. of the PCI-E slot). The 50W max listed by another poster sounds right.

    PSUs vary a great deal. A good 400W one can supply more current at +12V than a cheap 600W one. What make is your PSU? How many amps at +12V? (See the sticker.)
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