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Windows 7: Hard Drive - why is 2 TB only 1.8 TB ??

29 Dec 2010   #91
Julio Cortez

Windows 10 1703
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
If everyone replaced their Hard Drives with SSD drives would this solve the confusion?
No, because my 80GB SSD shows up as 74GB in Windows Explorer.
This, before everything else. As I stated before, if the OS for first gives a misleading information, users are still likely to believe it (it's the OS after all, it's supposed to know what's going on better than the user). So, if the OS states that my disk is 74GB even if it's 74GiB actually, I obviously feel cheated by those who said me it could store 80GB of data.
Back in the days, I also thought there was something wrong with disk space (and, out of former ignorance, assumed the GBs missing were reserved space for the OS ), so I know how it feels.
I had to try storing 4,6GBs on a DVD to figure out what the "key difference" was


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29 Dec 2010   #92
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

My first computer came with an 850MB Conner HD. Imagine how cheated I felt when Win 3.1 told me it was only 810MB.

I've been looking for those lost 40MB for the last 15 1/2 years...
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29 Dec 2010   #93
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

May I remind you that the binary number system is about 2500 years old - but it does not seem to have caught up with some of you guys.

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29 Dec 2010   #94
Julio Cortez

Windows 10 1703
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
May I remind you that the binary number system is about 2500 years old - but it does not seem to have caught up with some of you guys.
There are only 10 types of people in the world
those who understand binary, and those who don't.
(I don't know who said this funny quote, but I think it fits in this thread)
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29 Dec 2010   #95
Buddahfan

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
If everyone replaced their Hard Drives with SSD drives would this solve the confusion?
The mathematics are the same. What makes you think that binary is different on a SSD.
The Smile I used means "what"

I guess you have to be a Jim Healy fan to understand the meaning and symbolism it what I said with that Smile.

It works like this.

Question or statement

Question or statement makes no sense

So the responder comes in with "Say What?" or in this case just "What" indicating that the question or statement that preceded the "Say What" or "What" makes little or no sense.

So my post was an attempt at dry humor on this never ending subject.

If people were to be replaced with a bunch of "Datas" from STNG only then will this confusion go away.
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29 Dec 2010   #96
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

That sounds like this: Google Translate
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29 Dec 2010   #97
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Look at it this way, when you see a file which is 1,000,000 bytes in size, you likely say...that's a 1MB file. You wouldn't necessarily hold off until 1,048,576 bytes. Therefore, if you had an 800MB file...that was 800,000,000 in size...it would fit on an 800MB hard drive....
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29 Dec 2010   #98
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Look at it this way, when you see a file which is 1,000,000 bytes in size, you likely say...that's a 1MB file. You wouldn't necessarily hold off until 1,048,576 bytes. Therefore, if you had an 800MB file...that was 800,000,000 in size...it would fit on an 800MB hard drive....
To fit on an 800 MB HD, as described buy the manufacturer, the file would have to be 763 MiB (most people do not make that distinction) on the computer. Most would say that's a 760 MB file, right? Well they'd be right - and wrong, depending on what one is referencing. If you read a file size on the computer and it says 800 MiB (most people do not make that distinction) or so, you are going to need an HD in excess of 839 MB, according to industry standard HD manufacturer's descriptions, on which to store it.

Look, I understand all of this. It's just too easy to see where many people get tripped up. To feign ignorance that this is a real issue for a lot of people is simply being disingenuous.
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02 Jan 2011   #99
James Colbert

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
To fit on an 800 MB HD, as described buy the manufacturer, the file would have to be 763 MiB (most people do not make that distinction) on the computer. Most would say that's a 760 MB file, right? Well they'd be right - and wrong, depending on what one is referencing. If you read a file size on the computer and it says 800 MiB (most people do not make that distinction) or so, you are going to need an HD in excess of 839 MB, according to industry standard HD manufacturer's descriptions, on which to store it.

Look, I understand all of this. It's just too easy to see where many people get tripped up. To feign ignorance that this is a real issue for a lot of people is simply being disingenuous.
Well said, Mike!
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02 Jan 2011   #100
James Colbert

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
If everyone replaced their Hard Drives with SSD drives would this solve the confusion?
The mathematics are the same. What makes you think that binary is different on a SSD.
The Smile I used means "what"

I guess you have to be a Jim Healy fan to understand the meaning and symbolism it what I said with that Smile.

It works like this.

Question or statement

Question or statement makes no sense

So the responder comes in with "Say What?" or in this case just "What" indicating that the question or statement that preceded the "Say What" or "What" makes little or no sense.

So my post was an attempt at dry humor on this never ending subject.

If people were to be replaced with a bunch of "Datas" from STNG only then will this confusion go away.
I actually understood this post . For those who don't (if I might be so froward...err..forward as to interpret ):

STNG = Star Trek Next Generation
Data = Android (character had prominent role)

Humor and intent understood...

James
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