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Windows 7: Hard Drive - why is 2 TB only 1.8 TB ??

03 Jan 2011   #101
michaelst

windows 7 32
 
 

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If people were to be replaced with a bunch of "Datas" from STNG only then will this confusion go away.

STNG = Star Trek Next Generation
Data = Android (character had prominent role)

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Just think how bummed THEY felt when they found out thier 5 billion giga-qauds of storage was really ONLY 4.86 billion giga-quads!


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03 Jan 2011   #102
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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If people were to be replaced with a bunch of "Datas" from STNG only then will this confusion go away.
STNG = Star Trek Next Generation
Data = Android (character had prominent role)
Just think how bummed THEY felt when they found out thier 5 billion giga-qauds of storage was really ONLY 4.86 billion giga-quads!

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03 Jan 2011   #103
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michaelst View Post
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STNG = Star Trek Next Generation
Data = Android (character had prominent role)
Just think how bummed THEY felt when they found out thier 5 billion giga-qauds of storage was really ONLY 4.86 billion giga-quads!

Hm, imagine of how large of a difference that size is in comparison to our current data capacity.
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04 Jan 2011   #104
Buddahfan

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michaelst View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post

If people were to be replaced with a bunch of "Datas" from STNG only then will this confusion go away.

STNG = Star Trek Next Generation
Data = Android (character had prominent role)

Just think how bummed THEY felt when they found out thier 5 billion giga-qauds of storage was really ONLY 4.86 billion giga-quads![/QUOTE]
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Data was composed of 24.6 kilograms of tripolymer composites, 11.8 kilograms of molybdenum-cobalt alloys and 1.3 kilograms of bioplast sheeting. (TNG: "The Most Toys") All told, he weighed approximately one hundred kilograms. (TNG: "Inheritance") Data's upper spinal support was a polyalloy designed to withstand extreme stress. His skull was composed of cortenide and duranium. (TNG: "The Chase") His legs were exactly 87.2 centimeters in length. (Star Trek: Insurrection) Data was built with an ultimate storage capacity of eight hundred quadrillion bits (one hundred petabytes, approximately fifty times the identifiable storage capacity of the Human brain) and a total linear computational speed rated at sixty trillion operations per second. (TNG: "The Measure Of A Man")
Only 100 Petabytes?

That is not even a exabyte
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04 Apr 2016   #105
Chizach124

Windows 10 X64
 
 

Ok im about to throw this thread for a loop because i read through almost all of this thread not a single person mentioned the way that LINUX actually utilizes all of the drive for use. So while the theory of how its just a marketing trick makes sense and has fairly good evidence to back it, the best sounding "THEORY" that i had heard so far was clear back at the beginning. Drives manufactured with bad sectors for safety reasons.... but then again linux based computers wouldnt be able to use those sectors neither.... now being an individual who has successfully filled a 500GB hard drive with 500GBs of data using linux the question remains..... why is it that only WINDOWS based platforms minimize the usable size of the drive vs the physical????
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05 Apr 2016   #106
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

What are you talking about ? Windows doesn`t minimize it, it just reads it differently. Windows can still use the entire capacity of the drive.

The only thing wrong is the fact that the companies put the GB letters on the box.

A 2 TB advertised drive is about 1862 GB in windows, and windows can use every bit of it.

A 2 TB drive in windows is not 2000 GB, never has been

Linux is a totally different system you can`t compare to windows.
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06 Apr 2016   #107
Chizach124

Windows 10 X64
 
 

Actually they still read the amount of data the same wayregaurdless of how different the programming is. They both use 1s and 0s. A HDD has a fixed amount of data that it can store. I think we can all agree on that. But the fact of the matter is that o have filled a 500gb HDD on windows to 465 and then took it and plugged into my linux computer and it read it as 465GB and then proceeded to fill it up with the other 35gbs of data. So tell me how that works mister.

So again, why do windows based systems limit the amount of hdd usage? Can it just not read the rest of it?? I just want to know.
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06 Apr 2016   #108
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Because Linux reads it differently as I`ve said, you can`t add data to space that`s not there.

An 500 GB advertised drive is only 465 GB in windows, there is nothing more you can add to it. That`s it.

Windows does not limit the amount of data that can be stored on a 465 GB drive, I have no idea what you`re talking about.

You can not fill up a drive past it`s capacity, that is impossible.

I will run Zorin and see what all my 500 GB drives (465 GB in windows) size is.
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06 Apr 2016   #109
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

all of my drives show as 500 GB in Linux, 465 GB of it is using NTFS, that`s the file system windows uses. you can add more data to it, but no more then you can add in windows.

That is why you can fill it to 500 GB in Linux, Linux gives you a different GB amount because it uses a different file system so it shows as 500 GB.

Windows will show it as 465 GB because a GB in windows is 1024 MB

There is no way you can take a completely full drive from a windows PC and install it in a Linux PC and have more room on the drive magically appear, unless Linux is compressing the data somehow.

That I will leave to an expert like Wolfgang.l
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06 Apr 2016   #110
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 10 Pro x64
 
 

For the Same File, Why Windows and Ubuntu Show Different Sizes ?

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For example

In Windows

Windows assumes that there are 1024 Bytes in a Kilobyte unit, and 1024 Kilobytes in a Megabyte unit etc.

In Ubuntu (GNU/Linux)

Ubuntu assumes, a 1000 bytes constitute a Kilobyte (KB) unit, 1000 Kilobytes for a Megabyte (MB) and so on.
More here,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
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