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Windows 7: Clean install every year or two?

23 Aug 2010   #11
gregrocker

 

Not really. The bloatware is corrupting even with its uninstallation, often damaging System Files beyond repair. Most tech enthusiasts find a clean-copy installer to clean reinstall using the Product Key on COA sticker on machine.

If you make your Recovery disk set, you can even wipe the entire HD of factory code to get the cleanest possible reinstall. Any factory utilities will not be useable with the reinstall anyway -Windows 7 has better ones built in - so those partitions can go also.

I am not saying to rush into this. Do the research and ask plenty of questions. Try first to uninstall the bloatware over time using Revo Uninstaller in Advanced mode - it will run the Windows uninstaller for you but don't restart when prompted, instead click Next to delete hidden registry keys and files it cues up.

Uncheck everything in msconfig>Startup except AV and gadgets as other programs are freeloading on your RAM or spying on you and can wait til you click on them. Use a lightweight free AV like MS Security Essentials or Avast 5. Monitor your Event Viewer to google repeat errors to resolution, and run sfc /scannow to check sysfiles condition.

Here is the experience of someone who just clean reinstalled to overcome bloatware. He had other issues, but the thread documents pretty much everything you need to know: Clean Install Windows 7 that was preinstalled on computer.


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23 Aug 2010   #12
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Not really. The bloatware is corrupting even with its uninstallation, often damaging System Files beyond repair. Most tech enthusiasts find a clean-copy installer to clean reinstall using the Product Key on COA sticker on machine.

If you make your Recovery disk set, you can even wipe the entire HD of factory code to get the cleanest possible reinstall. Any factory utilities will not be useable with the reinstall anyway -Windows 7 has better ones built in - so those partitions can go also.

I am not saying to rush into this. Do the research and ask plenty of questions. Try first to uninstall the bloatware over time using Revo Uninstaller in Advanced mode - it will run the Windows uninstaller for you but don't restart when prompted, instead click Next to delete hidden registry keys and files it cues up.

Uncheck everything in msconfig>Startup except AV and gadgets as other programs are freeloading on your RAM or spying on you and can wait til you click on them. Use a lightweight free AV like MS Security Essentials or Avast 5. Monitor your Event Viewer to google repeat errors to resolution, and run sfc /scannow to check sysfiles condition.

Here is the experience of someone who just clean reinstalled to overcome bloatware. He had other issues, but the thread documents pretty much everything you need to know: Clean Install Windows 7 that was preinstalled on computer.
I really appreciate the advice. Thank you.
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23 Aug 2010   #13
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
Nate, I wonder why you weren't able to install from your image?
This is my main concern. It makes me wonder if i have a hardware problem, but it's been good since the clean install.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nate42nd View Post
My system wouldn't start today and I tried a "startup repair" to no avail. A system restore to no avail, and an image recovery. The recovery program wouldn't even detect the image on my external eSATA drive. I didn't know what to do. I tried everything I have learned on this site.

I have had an SSD for more than a year and had turned off superfetch, prefetch and a whole bunch of services, modified the pagefile and had programs spread all over 3 drives. I think my Windows install just "gave up"

I ended up doing a clean install and all is well. Luckily I had all data on different drives so I didn't loose much. I just use my SSD for Windows. There may have been a solution, but sometimes.....does one simply have to do a clean install every year or two? I have heard people say this is the case and with all my system mods....I think it was the case with me....especially with my very complicated system mods.

If anyone has experience with this let me know. Thanks.

P.S. I have been away from the forums for far too long. I need to get back to work helping people. Sorry for not being here to help for a few months. I have been busy with photography and video with my new Canon 500D and 7D. It takes all of my time

I too do extensive system mods. I also find a clean install is needed but in my case it is much more frequent. I do a clean install about every three months
Thanks for the reply. I thought the many mods would catch up with me sooner than a year. I hope that's all it was. I don't understand why it wouldnt detect my image however. I tried it on another system and the external was fine and the image was there....
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23 Aug 2010   #14
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by marsmimar View Post
This might be a no-brainer type question. Hope you don't mind. My laptop has a manufacturer's recovery partition that let's me restore my machine to a like new condition. Is this type of install as good as a traditional clean install using an installation disk? (Aside from having to remove the manufacturer's crapware that also gets installed.) Thanks for any advice pro or con. And my apologies if this should be a separate question. If so, I'll delete and repost.
I agree with the great advice gregrocker gave you. Find an installer disk or make a USB flash drive installer. I have a video on YouTube under the same user name on how to do it. It's not too hard if you have a windows 7 disk.....don't know about having an OEM one though. It might take some more steps.
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23 Aug 2010   #15
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Actually, for folks with an OEM load, I generally back up the activation license files and data, and do a clean installation including replacing the OEM licensing data back down (thus re-activating the install). I make a system image backup of that once all of their basic software is installed and configured (not the stuff that updates regularly like flash, pdf reader software, etc), and they use that to restore when necessary.

To answer the original question on this thread, I try to avoid reinstalls whenever possible - I have had multiple Win7 RTM installations on many of my machines since July and August of last year, and I've not had to reinstall even one.
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23 Aug 2010   #16
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello Nate, glad to see you back around.
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23 Aug 2010   #17
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

If you can cut the OEM garbage the recovery will be a fresh install that first wipes whatever you have on now to see that done. You would first want to backup anything you want from the C volume before using it for that reason. But it's a preactivated fresh install seen.
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23 Aug 2010   #18
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello Nate, glad to see you back around.
Thanks BFK, I have missed all of you. I have been sooooo busy. I will stop in more often. It appears I may have to diagnose a hardware problem if these issues continue. That wil keep me even busier. haha

I'm not sure how to diagnose a CPU or motherboard problem. I can test RAM and the PSU, but if it's a board or CPU.....I don't know how to diagnose that stuff...but that's for another thread.

Good to be back.
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23 Aug 2010   #19
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I shopped around a bit and located a few motherboard testers. You can find some with the 4 digit displays good for both laptops and desktops alike.

To see how one of those looks, PCI Test Card, PC Analyzer, Motherboard Test Card

I didn't pay anywhere that price for a few on EBay however while the one shown there offers a bit more! Once you power up with it in a pci slot you simply look up the code in reference booklet that comes along with it. The code will point to the part of the board like bios to indicate where any fault is found if one is present.
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24 Aug 2010   #20
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
I shopped around a bit and located a few motherboard testers. You can find some with the 4 digit displays good for both laptops and desktops alike.

To see how one of those looks, PCI Test Card, PC Analyzer, Motherboard Test Card

I didn't pay anywhere that price for a few on EBay however while the one shown there offers a bit more! Once you power up with it in a pci slot you simply look up the code in reference booklet that comes along with it. The code will point to the part of the board like bios to indicate where any fault is found if one is present.
Thanks Night Hawk I didn't know these things existed. Maybe I could use one.
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