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Windows 7: install problems

21 Sep 2010   #11
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

I would set it at no more than 100GB so the Master File Table isn't put too far out in the middle of the Hard Disk Drive (HDD); as you say you can always make it larger if needed.


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21 Sep 2010   #12
DirtyElf

Windows 7 64-bit Home
 
 

right, i can always make it larger.. what about smaller?

and would i want to use this partition to install my applications once i get windows installed? or would this partition be only for the OS and then I would use another for everything else..?

im sorta new to this whole scene, now that ive built my first machine im trying to learn everything i can.. you guys are a great help
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21 Sep 2010   #13
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

A good approach is to make a 100gb partition for OS and programs, then put your User folders in a separate partition or HD. This allows you to save a WIn7 backup image of OS without having to lard it up with files, which you can keep backed up more often.

Then if Win7 ever becomes irreparable, you only need to boot DVD or Repair CD to reimage to the OS partition, and latest User files are all waiting in place.

User Folders - Change Default Location
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
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21 Sep 2010   #14
DirtyElf

Windows 7 64-bit Home
 
 

yes that sounds like a very good idea, the OS and applications partition will be the C: drive, and then i will have a D (or whatever) drive that will store my media, etc...

so when clean all finishes on my hard drive will i need to create both of those partitions? a 100 gb one and a 900 gb one?

edit: also, when the clean finishes should I continue with the install from the DVD, or should i shut it down and remove all but 1 stick of ram and try the install? Right now i have all 4 sticks installed.
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21 Sep 2010   #15
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

You can use booted DVD Custom>Drive Options to create the partitions, then format both before installing to first partition.

Clean Install Windows 7

Just ignore the 100mb boot partition it places in the first slot as it is useful if you need to boot into Repair Console using F8 Advanced Boot Tools, instead of just using DVD or Repair CD.
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21 Sep 2010   #16
DirtyElf

Windows 7 64-bit Home
 
 

Quote:
If you don't do "Step Two" below you will get the dreaded 100MB boot partition even if you use the "Drive Options" during the install to create and format a partition to install to.
why would i want the dreaded 100MB boot partition? As in why would i need the advanced f8 tools, rather than just using the dvd?
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21 Sep 2010   #17
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Some like the convenience. It is up to you.

You can avoid the 100mb SysReserved partition while using the DVD Drive Options to partition by changing the size of the 100mb partition to 100gb to install Win7 upon, then making the second partition (intended for Win7) whatever size you want to use as data partition.

Or use DISKPART commands from BFK's tutorial's partitioning step here SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

Or use free Partition Wizard bootable CD which is a great tool to have around.
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21 Sep 2010   #18
DirtyElf

Windows 7 64-bit Home
 
 

i have the disc, id rather just have a 100gb partition for windows without the 100mb partition.. when i use diskpart to create the 100gb partition, the rest of the space will be unallocated space and i will use the windows disc management (or free partition wizard) to create the second partition for the unallocated space once windows installs?

also, should i go ahead with the install once it is done with the clean all and i create my partition? or should i remove some ram? how many? i currently have 4 2gb sticks installed.

edit: before when trying to install i was getting the 0x80070570 error.. thats why i did the clean all in the first place

just trying to get this all figured out before i start, i want to do it right.

thanks
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21 Sep 2010   #19
DirtyElf

Windows 7 64-bit Home
 
 

my clean all is finished and i created my 100gb partition.. i want to be very clear on where to go from here..

a few questions.. should i remove some ram? should i check anything in the bios? what if i get the 0x80070570 error again? should i remove my wireless keyboard/mouse? should i unplug my lan cable? should i just go ahead with the install?
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21 Sep 2010   #20
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

What is the exact wording of the error? This error is different than the one in your original post.

If wiping the HD doesn't help, Test your RAM with memtest86 for 5-6 passes. then remove all but 2gb of RAM.

Disconnect any USB devices or other HD's to try install.

CHeck for newer BIOS version update, set SATA controller in BIOS to AHCI first, then IDE if neccessary.

Try clearing the CMOS: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixthe.../clearcmos.htm
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