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Windows 7: Partitions and recovery - (wot not space & Dell software)

25 Sep 2010   #1
Digory

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 
Partitions and recovery - (wot not space & Dell software)

Dear all,

Great forum - would very much appreciate some advice.
Have just bought Dell Inspiron with Win7 Home Premium installed.
Have set up two accounts - 1 admin and 1 std user.
Next plan was to partition HDD so that data was in own volume.
Never used Win7 before [XP Pro desktop] but thanks to your forum have figured out how to manage partions.
I was a bit surprised to find my 320GB HDD was already partioned three ways.

100MB OEM - no volume letter.
14.65GB Recovery - no volume letter.
283GB OS - C assigned.

I tested the "C" drive for shrink space and returned a 144GB available.
This leaves me circa 140GB for OS and Office 2007 - seems exessive.

Guessing the 100MB and 14.65GB Recovery are there to stay [whether or not I like the way created].
Interestingly, I was going to create the sys restore disc as per the Dell manual but could not find "DellDataSafe" [anyone used this].
Is this a Win7 recovery partition ?

As regards the available shrink space - does this seem correct or should I be looking at a defrag first.
Seems a bit sad to end up with less than half of the 320GB before I even start.

Thanks D;-)


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25 Sep 2010   #2
Bill2

Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
 
 

1) The 100 mb partition is the system reserved which contains files needed to boot win7. The 14.65gb is the recovery partition needed to restore your computer to factory default state (the way you found it on unboxing). Leave both of these alone.

2) Fore dell datasafe, click on Start orb->All programs->Dell datasafe local backup folder->dell datasafe local backup, then follow on screen prompts. You'll need more than one dvd otherwise use a dual layer dvd. I personally prefer using a single dual layer. Do this ASAP, its an insurance.

http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/document?c=us&l=en&s=gen&docid=62A668E1C399857AE040AE0AB8E12942

3) For shrinking C: drive, use Partition Wizard.

Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
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25 Sep 2010   #3
Digory

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Thanks for pointer.
Have looked for Del software - no DellDataSafe folder.
Seems odd but maybe I need to install.

Thanks for partition overview.
Any thoughts on defrag and the 140GB.

D:-)
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25 Sep 2010   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

The 140 GBs of shrink space are the Windows limit because it cannot move the MFT which sits in the middle of the partition. If you use the Partition Wizard that Bill2 posted, you can overcome that limit.

For the creation of a data partition and moving the user folders, You may want to have a look at one of my Video tutorials: Data Partition
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25 Sep 2010   #5
Digory

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Ahh thanks (tried a defrag but made no improvement - this explains why).
Always a bit cautious with downloading programmes for this kind of task.
In the past [xp] have used acronis with success.
I assume if you guys are recommending partition wizzard you are pretty happy with it.

Assuming I can move the MFT file - would 100GB be sensible size for WIN7 and OFFICE.

Cheers D)
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25 Sep 2010   #6
nabilalk

Win 7 Professional 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Digory View Post
Ahh thanks (tried a defrag but made no improvement - this explains why).
Always a bit cautious with downloading programmes for this kind of task.
In the past [xp] have used acronis with success.
I assume if you guys are recommending partition wizzard you are pretty happy with it.

Assuming I can move the MFT file - would 100GB be sensible size for WIN7 and OFFICE.

Cheers D)
100GB is more than enough. I use about 50GB and that is overkill
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25 Sep 2010   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

1. Partition Wizard is very reliable. However, it never hurts to backup a partition that one is going to manipulate.
2. For the OS alone, 100GBs is more than enough. On my 3 Win7 systems, the OS never used more than 18GBs and I have a lot of programs installed (no games though). All my user files are in different partitions. I also delete the hiberfile with powercfg.exe -h off as cmd command.
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25 Sep 2010   #8
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bill2 View Post
1) The 100 mb partition is the system reserved which contains files needed to boot win7. The 14.65gb is the recovery partition needed to restore your computer to factory default state (the way you found it on unboxing). Leave both of these alone.

2) Fore dell datasafe, click on Start orb->All programs->Dell datasafe local backup folder->dell datasafe local backup, then follow on screen prompts. You'll need more than one dvd otherwise use a dual layer dvd. I personally prefer using a single dual layer. Do this ASAP, its an insurance.

http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/document?c=us&l=en&s=gen&docid=62A668E1C399857AE040AE0AB8E12942

3) For shrinking C: drive, use Partition Wizard.

Hello Digory, welcome to Seven Forums!


We here at Seven Forums have an excellent source for all the Partition Wizard info you may need, have a look at Option One of this tutorial at the link below to do exactly what you need to do and if you need to install the Partition Wizard to the Windows partition see the second link below.

Do remember to post back with any questions and to keep us informed.

Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD

Partition Wizard Home Edition
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25 Sep 2010   #9
Digory

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

All - big thanks (and thanx the welcome post).

Will check out the links - you clearly have confidence in partiton wizard which is good to know.
This may be a dumb question, when I think about my "C" OS partition, I am thinking about OS, OFFICE and all other programmes [or apps].
Are you guys keeping just OS in smaller partition ?

D:-)
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25 Sep 2010   #10
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Digory View Post
All - big thanks (and thanx the welcome post).

Will check out the links - you clearly have confidence in partiton wizard which is good to know.
This may be a dumb question, when I think about my "C" OS partition, I am thinking about OS, OFFICE and all other programmes [or apps].
Are you guys keeping just OS in smaller partition ?

D:-)



Yes but don't go much less than 80GB or it may come back to bite you; remember all the 'other' program/apps that get installed to the OS partition.
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