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Windows 7: Install to new SSD from old HDD Recovery Partition

14 Oct 2010   #11
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Yep, since although you are only using about 140 GB of that large partition, that is still much more than 60 GB.

When you get ready to install:
  1. Remove your present monster,
  2. Connect the SSD,
  3. Use the tutorials Greg gave you to make a clean install, complete with a Clean All.
  4. Don't sweat the alignment thing. Win 7 and your SSD will take care of that correctly for you. Don't worry about defrag, indexing--those will be turned off for you. Don't listen to all of the scare-mongers about only so many writes. Your computer will be long dead before that happens.
  5. After you've installed and updated Win 7, then you can reconnect your old drive.
Oh yes, I don't have one of those 100 MB reserved partitions. Hasn't interfered with anything.

Do make yourself a System Repair Disc.
DISC - CREATE A SYSTEM REPAIR DISC
START | type System Repair | Enter key | Create Disc button



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14 Oct 2010   #12
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I have an Acer desktop and made a duplicate HDD as an emergency backup. I used imaging and this included the recovery/hidden partition (PQService). MS imaging won't move the recovery partition and I used Macrium. I used MS imaging for the rest since this is my default imaging application.
I found it a very straightforward procedure. I am happy to help here but others will need to provide specific advice on the SSD.

Acer support in my part of the world is terrible. Maybe Acer US can give simple recovery advice using the recovery disks.

But as someone suggested you can use your COA key on the Acer machine with your Retail windows 7 disk to do a clean install. gregrocker the person for this I think.
Win 7 Backup and Restore copies the 100 MB partition by default, the C partition (or whatever letter you used) by default and any other partitions you specify. Please see:
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
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14 Oct 2010   #13
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Karlsnooks
the 100MB is not the recovery partition. It contains the boot manager, boot configuration data and sometimes some recover tools.
The Recovery partition most OEMs supply and the one I refer to typically contains around 9 GB which is used to build the OS.

Any newcomers - you can absorb the 100MB (active, system reserved) into your windows partition but don't just delete it your computer won't boot.
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14 Oct 2010   #14
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post



Any newcomers - you can absorb the 100MB (active, system reserved) into your windows partition but don't just delete it your computer won't boot.

If you are referring to resizing the Windows partition to the left, which will take a 3rd party software, that is out-lined in Option Two of this tutorial at the link below; is this what you're referring to?


Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
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14 Oct 2010   #15
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post



Any newcomers - you can absorb the 100MB (active, system reserved) into your windows partition but don't just delete it your computer won't boot.

If you are referring to resizing the Windows partition to the left, which will take a 3rd party software, that is out-lined in Option Two of this tutorial at the link below; is this what you're referring to?


Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
Yes thankyou.
If you want an extra partition number this is a way to safely absorb the 100M partition.
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14 Oct 2010   #16
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Is there really consensus that that the recovery disk will do the SSD installation? I am not so sure, but I have never tried that.

If not, then there is a lot more to it:

1.Move all the data from the current C to a data partition. Here is how: Data Partition Hopefully there will be less than 60GBs left on C after that.
2. Clone C. Methods were posted earlier.
3. Align the SSD. Here is how: SSD Alignment
4. Define a primary, active partition on the SSD. Use the bootable PW that BFK linked.
5. (optional) Disconnect the HDD as Greg said - just to be on the safe side.
6. Dump the clone on the SSD.
7. Reconnect the HDD and try to boot from the SSD (change boot sequence in BIOS)
8. If the boot was successful, switch the defrag off.

Did I forget anything?
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14 Oct 2010   #17
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Karlsnooks
the 100MB is not the recovery partition. It contains the boot manager, boot configuration data and sometimes some recover tools.
The Recovery partition most OEMs supply and the one I refer to typically contains around 9 GB which is used to build the OS.

Any newcomers - you can absorb the 100MB (active, system reserved) into your windows partition but don't just delete it your computer won't boot.
Absolutely wrong! Let me say it slow for you..
I
do not
have
a
100 mb
partition.

I purposely do not have one.
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14 Oct 2010   #18
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Karlsnooks
the 100MB is not the recovery partition. It contains the boot manager, boot configuration data and sometimes some recover tools.
The Recovery partition most OEMs supply and the one I refer to typically contains around 9 GB which is used to build the OS.

Any newcomers - you can absorb the 100MB (active, system reserved) into your windows partition but don't just delete it your computer won't boot.
Absolutely wrong! Let me say it slow for you..
I
do not
have
a
100 mb
partition.

I purposely do not have one.
I think your enter key isn't the only thing stuck.

The screenshot is a typical partitioning of an OEM computer boot disk. This is a classic MS configuration for Windows 7.
1st Partition: contains the OEM factory recovery (Disk management suggests it's empty but it contains around 9 GB to recover your system to the original condition.
2nd Partition: 100MB marked System, Active. The BIOS in conjunction with the Master Boot Record (MBR), which is the first 512 bytes on the disk, pass control to the system active partition. In this partition is the boot manager which uses information in the Boot Configuration Data (BCD) to move to the next stage of the boot sequence.
3rd Partition: marked Boot, Page file,.... Control is passed to a program
c:\windows\system32\winload.exe which loads the windows 7 OS.

If you just delete the 100MB partition which is system, active the BIOS will report a boot error.
If you absorb the functions of the 100MB partition into the 3rd partition using for example the Barefootkid tutorial this partition becomes
System, Active, Boot ....
Some computers will already be configured this way.

Is that slow enough?


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14 Oct 2010   #19
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

This is the last I will say on this.
You do NOT need that 100 MB partition.

It isn't "absorbed" into anything.
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