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Windows 7: please don't laugh...

23 Oct 2010   #181
gregrocker

 

From Windows is the only safe way. But if we could find your BIOS updates (Acer took them down) then its possible you could flash from CD. It would be better to try installing or imaging WIn7 onto your HD first so you can do it more safely.

Is there any chance you are still within the first year of purchase to get Acer Tech support, who apparently need to supervise their BIOS updates on this model?

Did you check your SATA controller setting? I know you have an IDE drive but it still needs to be checked in BIOS setup where the HD's register (not boot order).

Dave will help you possibly swap the external into your laptop.


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23 Oct 2010   #182
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mypcbroke View Post
Wait, my external hard drive with where my computer from a few months ago is saved? It's a Hitachi Simpledrive.... something or another

How would I update my BIOS?

Can you look at this website and find your model?

http://www.simpletech.com/


Does your Laptop and the external hard drive have an eSATA cable?

SATA Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

Look about half way down the page, you can see the eSATA cables.
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23 Oct 2010   #183
gregrocker

 

Work with Dave on getting your HD swapped as that is the most promising route now.

But there is one thing to deal with when you get around to it. I just re-read thread and see this:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mypcbroke View Post
The factory default has Network Boot enabled and F12 Boot Menu disabled. And SATA mode has been in AHCI
I think your SATA controller should be in IDE mode. Change it to IDE to try install.

And make sure network boot is disabled.
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23 Oct 2010   #184
mypcbroke

Windows Home Premium 32bit
 
 

My external HD is:
SimpleDRIVE Mini - Red Wine - USB 2.0 250GB 2.5 in Portable External Hard Drive

I don't find eSATA thing... not sure, but this website has pics of my pc with side views...
Acer Aspire 4810TZ-414G32MN - Notebookcheck.net External Reviews

Also, I rebooted with SATA in IDE and Network disabled.
I received this error right after the Acer loadup screen:
BOOTMGR is missing
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart
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23 Oct 2010   #185
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

I worked on a Science Experiment Today

I built a mini desktop computer.

AMD x64 240 CPU
Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 Motherboard
2 x 1gb G.Skill DDR2 800 memory
1.5 Seagate HD (Brand new, not formatted)

Installed Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit from TechNet subscription download
.iso burned with ImgBurn at 4x speed to DVD

Install took about 25 minutes, No Errors at all.
Connected to internet with Cat5 cable the whole time, it picked up updates.

Looks like Home Prem took 9.10gb of HD space, & the 100mb reserved partition.

please don't laugh...-amd_home_prem_disk_mgmt.jpg

So now I am perplexed at "mypcbroke's" install problem

please don't laugh...-amd_ii_240_homepremium_snip.jpg


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23 Oct 2010   #186
mypcbroke

Windows Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
I worked on a Science Experiment Today

I built a mini desktop computer.

AMD x64 240 CPU
Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 Motherboard
2 x 1gb G.Skill DDR2 800 memory
1.5 Seagate HD (Brand new, not formatted)

Installed Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit from TechNet subscription download
.iso burned with ImgBurn at 4x speed to DVD

Install took about 25 minutes, No Errors at all.
Connected to internet with Cat5 cable the whole time, it picked up updates.

Looks like Home Prem took 9.10gb of HD space, & the 100mb reserved partition.

Attachment 107112

So now I am perplexed at "mypcbroke's" install problem
You're tellin me, I'm perplexed by what you just said....
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23 Oct 2010   #187
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

I'm thinking we need to go back to the WD DataLife Tools Boot CD.

We need to write Zeros to the HD TWICE in a row to clear a re-occuring corrupted boot sector from being written to correctly.

Then we should have almost a bare virgin HD to try without any formatting for an install.


  1. You can now boot the computer to the diagnostics CD. Make sure your boot order in your BIOS is set to boot to the CD-ROM drive first.
  1. You will see the following options:
  2. SELECT DRIVE - Always choose this option first, as it determines which drive you will be working on.
  • QUICK TEST - This option tests your drive quickly for any major physical problems. (Please note: Although this option is safe and does not alter the data on your hard drive, Western Digital recommends that you have a current backup of your data).
  • EXTENDED TEST - This option checks your drive thoroughly and it can repair any correctable errors. (Please note: Although this option is safe and does not alter the data on your hard drive, some data loss may occur, depending on the errors found and the errors corrected. Western Digital recommends that you have a current backup of your data).
  • WRITE ZEROS TO DRIVE - The Write Zeros option, wipes any and all data off your drive. This option used when your data is no longer usable or recoverable. If you no longer need any data from your drive and would like to start over, run this option to set your drive to an as new condition. NOTE: Please make sure that you have selected the correct drive to perform this function on as once ran, no data will be recoverable.
  • VIEW TEST RESULTS - You can see the results of the test you just performed
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23 Oct 2010   #188
mypcbroke

Windows Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
WRITE ZEROS TO DRIVE - The Write Zeros option, wipes any and all data off your drive. This option used when your data is no longer usable or recoverable. If you no longer need any data from your drive and would like to start over, run this option to set your drive to an as new condition. NOTE: Please make sure that you have selected the correct drive to perform this function on as once ran, no data will be recoverable.

I received an ICRC error when I tried to write zeros....
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23 Oct 2010   #189
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Should we try the extended test

EXTENDED TEST - This option checks your drive thoroughly and it can repair any correctable errors. (Please note: Although this option is safe and does not alter the data on your hard drive, some data loss may occur, depending on the errors found and the errors corrected. Western Digital recommends that you have a current backup of your data).
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23 Oct 2010   #190
gregrocker

 

Using the Diskpart Clean All procedure from tutorial does the same thing if GWScan CD won't zero. I'm wondering if it even completed the first time around - it takes about an hour or more on 320gb HD. Sometimes Users get tired of waiting and cancel it which would leave the HD in an already-corrupted state if that's the case.

But running the Extended Test is a good idea anyway since I dont' think any of us are confident in that HD. So many of the google results I've read for each of the many errors she's gotten point to bad HD.

I like your thinking, Doc. These errors all seem to have in common possible boot sector corruption which may require more than one set of zeroes to overwrite.
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