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Windows 7: How to clean install Windows 7 to SSD upgrade on existing system?

01 Jan 2011   #11
gregrocker

 

Curious that there is no System partition still booting DISK1 if you unplugged it during install. But if you hadn't it would have configured a Dual Boot menu placing boot files on DISK0 System Reserved.

Test that DISK1 boots on its own by triggering the one-time BIOS boot menu key (should be ESC on Evga) at bootup, or by unplugging DISK0 and setting Disk1 as first HD to boot in BIOS setup.

If not, remove the letter E from SysRserved in Disk Mgmt, unplug all other drives, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times until it writes the System MBR to 100mb Active partition on DISK1 and starts it.

Then plug back in DISK0, set it as first HD to boot in BIOS setup (after DVD drive), boot DISK1 if needed using one-time BIOS Boot Menu key.


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01 Jan 2011   #12
Monumental

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
 
 

Ok, I thought this was all going to go smoothly.

I followed this User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

and before doing so renamed the Users folder and ProgramData on the D drive with the .old appendage.

After running that script and it auto-restarting I get the message 'BOOTMGR is missing'

I did the one time boot thing and tried to boot from the D drive. I got the initial Windows screen and then a blue screen...probably because it thinks the Users and ProgramData folders are missing? I unplugged the SSD and went into BIOS to ensure the HDD was the primary boot drive, restarted and got the same blue screen.

So how do I enter Disk Management to remove the E and go about following your other instructions?
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01 Jan 2011   #13
Monumental

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
 
 

I found this Bootmgr is missing - Fix

Should I give this a shot?
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01 Jan 2011   #14
gregrocker

 

As I said I am not familar with the method for moving User folders during Install which is a new tutorial and procedure here. That is why I recommended the normal method: User Folders - Change Default Location

What I would do at this point is use known methods to repair both SSD and HD one at a time, then you can check the links to your User folders. Having User folders moved off the SSD should not affect its ability to boot.

First unplug the HD, set SSD to boot in BIOS after DVD drive, use DIskpart to mark SysReserved partition Active. Partition - Mark as Active You could also use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to have a picture of what you're doing. http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html

Next boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times to repair the or rewrite the System MBR to Sys Reserved: Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times

Once Win7 starts on the SSD, you can unplug it, plug back in the HD, set it to boot in BIOS setup after DVD, then mark Active and run the Repairs same as done on the SSD to start Win7 on the HD.

You can then plug back all drives, set SSD to boot after DVD drive, then if you need to boot the HD use the one-time BIOS Boot Menu key.

Now you can sort out the User folder links using the method which has been used successfully for years in this and the Vista forums: User Folders - Change Default Location

If you have further problems from using the during-install method of moving User folders I would PM the author or the Guru who recommended it for assistance in sorting it out now. Until then I can try to help you sort it out after you get Win7 started up again.
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01 Jan 2011   #15
Kari

 

The Audit Mode / sysprep method is completely safe. In fact, it is the safest and most effortless way to relocate user profiles. Because it only changes two Windows 7 variables, it simply can not be the reason for your boot problem.

I just posted this to that other thread we were talking about your installation. When you get your bootmgr issue solved, this shows you how to use sysprep to move Users after installing Windows 7 on an SSD:
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OK, I have tested a new, different scenario now on three PC's, and it works. Here's what you should do if installing Seven on SSD and relocating User folders using this method, or if for any reason wanting to move ProgramData and / or Users after Windows is already installed. This method can be used whenever you want to relocate Users to another disk on an existing installation of Seven.

First, install Seven normally to SSD, disconnecting all other disks. After Windows has booted first time normally after installation, shut the computer down and reconnect other disks. Reboot Windows.

Run Command Prompt as administrator by clicking Start Menu > All Programs > Accessories, then right clicking Command Prompt and selecting Run as Administrator:

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Type this to command prompt: C:\Windows\System32\Sysprep\Sysprep.exe /audit /reboot

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Windows reboots now to Audit Mode, "thinking" it's been started first time as the message on screen shows:

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Now continue from beginning of page 4 in tutorial, and follow the steps described. Running the script causes Windows to move ProgramData and Users folders from C: to another disk or partition, also moving all content of said folders. The later you do this, the longer it takes because Windows has more to move.

Notice that this really makes Windows think it's first boot, so you have to select country and keyboard layout and again create a user account when first time booted in OOBE (normal) mode after running the script. Because the Users folder already contains your user account folders, you get an error message if trying to input the same name:

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Use a temporary name, for instance Test to continue first boot routine. When Windows stops for login, choose your old account to login, for instance in my case I chose here Kari and not the account Test which I just created:

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When finally in Windows desktop, go to User Accounts and remove the unnecessary Test account. There are no folders to remove because Windows does not create user folders when user account is created; the user folders are only created when user logs in first time.

That's it. Works without any problems whatsoever.
Kari
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01 Jan 2011   #16
Monumental

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
 
 

Alright, Greg, I followed your instructions. Ran Startup repair first on the SSD three times and it never found any problems. I ran it on the HDD and the first time it detected a problem, repaired it and came back fine the 2nd and 3rd times.

New problem. When I try to boot from the SSD, Windows starts and says "Setup is preparing your computer for first use" but there's a popup that says "Install Windows" "Windows could not complete the installation. To install Windows on this computer, restart the installation." I get that every time I restart. So do I have to try to start the fresh install over? Should I wipe the disk first?
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01 Jan 2011   #17
Monumental

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
 
 

By the way, thanks to the both of you for your assistance. Happy New Years to you and yours.

What a great site. As soon as I get this up and running I'm going to have to hop onto the Vista version, but that's the computer with the real issues, lol. I think it may be getting a 7 upgrade.
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01 Jan 2011   #18
Monumental

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Curious that there is no System partition still booting DISK1 if you unplugged it during install. But if you hadn't it would have configured a Dual Boot menu placing boot files on DISK0 System Reserved.

Test that DISK1 boots on its own by triggering the one-time BIOS boot menu key (should be ESC on Evga) at bootup, or by unplugging DISK0 and setting Disk1 as first HD to boot in BIOS setup.

If not, remove the letter E from SysRserved in Disk Mgmt, unplug all other drives, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times until it writes the System MBR to 100mb Active partition on DISK1 and starts it.

Then plug back in DISK0, set it as first HD to boot in BIOS setup (after DVD drive), boot DISK1 if needed using one-time BIOS Boot Menu key.
And back to this, I haven't been able to get into disk management since I got that first error. Is there another way to delete the letter E? Could that be causing problems?
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02 Jan 2011   #19
gregrocker

 

Removing SysReserved letter is only a precaution so nothing can write to it and take up the space needed to create a SysVolInfo file needed for imaging. It should not affect booting.

It appears you have a failed install to SSD, so your best approach now is to reinstall from scratch with all other drives and peripherals unplugged. Boot DVD, select Custom, use Drive Options to delete all partitions, create new, accept the 100mb boot partition, format each then install to OS partition. Clean Install Windows 7

Once you get installed to SSD, plug back in the HD to use as a data slave. Do you already have User folders on there you can link as this might be your best approach? Later we can help you surgically remove the HD OS.

If this fails for some reason, wipe the SSD to try install then follow Step 2.2 to format an Active partition to try install: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
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02 Jan 2011   #20
Monumental

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
 
 

Startup repair did find an error when booting from HDD and said that it couldn't repair it. I tried multiple times and couldn't load into Windows with just my old setup. Startup repair said the error was a bad driver. The only thing I could think to do was load defaults in the BIOS, clear CMOS and try again. So I did, and was able to boot into Windows. So one down, now the SSD to go.
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