To use or not to use BOOTSECT.EXE ?


  1. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Pro 32 bits
       #1

    To use or not to use BOOTSECT.EXE ?


    'Hope you can help me with this one. To use or not to use BOOTSECT.EXE?

    I have Windows 7 Pro installed on a brand new 1 TB HDD. My homemade server/ workstation works flawlessly it seems but for one important detail: it boots to the black and white screen of the "Windows boot manager". Only when I pick the choice of Windows 7 and press Enter do I finally get to go to Windows heaven.

    The system itself contains another HDD which previously had Windows XP Pro on it before I wiped it out, leaving only the invisible \boot directory. Maybe is it this unknown directory left after I erased everything else that caused the problem.

    At first, BCDEDIT would yield information of the kind:

    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier: {bootmgr}
    device: partition=X:

    Windows Legacy OS Loader
    ------------------------
    identifier: {ntldr}
    device: partition=X:

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier: {current}
    device: partition=C:

    Then I used "Windows Recovery Environment" booting from the DVD of Windows and BCDEDIT gives this:

    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier: {bootmgr}
    device: partition=X:

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier: {current}
    device: partition=C:

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier: {long series of alphanumeric}
    device: ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\ same long series of alphanumeric \Winre.wim
     
    In the Boot Configuration Data, rather noticeable is the fact that the "Windows Legacy OS Loader" is gone after using "Windows Recovery Environment" and that "Windows Boot Loader" has now two entries instead of a single one. But I am still booting to the same black and white screen of the "Windows boot manager", where the choice of the Legacy OS has been replaced by Windows Recovery.

    The problem remains, it's just not booting directly to Windows 7.

    Is this a case where BOOTSECT.EXE should be used or has been used already by Windows Recovery without me knowing? I searched my HDD and couldn't find BOOTSECT.EXE anywhere, and yet it is there in the \boot directory of the Windows 7 DVD.

    So, should I use BOOTSECT.EXE?
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  2. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #2

    Hello 514cubic, welcome to Seven Forums!



    Before we make any specific recommendations will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map with a full description as to which drive/partition is which, so we can see what you have going on as there may be a fairly simple way to resolve the situation.

    In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.


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  3. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Pro 32 bits
    Thread Starter
       #3

    I appreciate such a swift move but the snipping will have to wait until tomorrow since I must take some well deserved rest and also since my Tyan machine is now off ( the problematic one )
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  4. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #4

    Just post back to this same thread when you're able.
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  5. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Pro 32 bits
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Here is the snip


    To use or not to use BOOTSECT.EXE ?-diskmngt.jpg

    Here is the result for the snip of Disk Management.

    Note also that now upon booting to the Windows Boot Manager in black and white, the two choices offered to me are Windows 7 and "Ramdisk Options" about which I have next to no idea what to do with! Probably the result of "Windows Recovery Environment".
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  6. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Pro 32 bits
    Thread Starter
       #6

    The Boot Configuration Data before and after Windows Recovery


    Here is another view at the problematic boot process from the angle of the Boot Configuration Data provided by the command line BCDEDIT.EXE

    Notice the use of the Courier New font instead of the Verdana. It makes the alignement of the columns of Boot Configuration Data more readable.


    The before view:
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=X:
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {f6e71c5e-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    displayorder {ntldr}
    {current}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 30
    Windows Legacy OS Loader
    ------------------------
    identifier {ntldr}
    device partition=X:
    path \ntldr
    description Earlier Version of Windows
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {f6e71c60-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    recoveryenabled Yes
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {f6e71c5e-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    nx OptIn

    ==================================
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ==================================

    The after view:
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=X:
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {f6e71c5e-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    displayorder {current}
    {f6e71c60-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 40
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7 Opteron
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {f6e71c60-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    recoveryenabled Yes
    bootdebug No
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {f6e71c5e-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    nx OptIn
    pae ForceDisable
    custom:26000026 No
    vga No
    quietboot No
    sos No
    debug No
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {f6e71c60-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    device ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\f6e71c60-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5\Winre.wim,{f6e71c61-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    path \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows Recovery Environment
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    osdevice ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\f6e71c60-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5\Winre.wim,{f6e71c61-098f-11df-bd80-87cb9f1d1ef5}
    systemroot \windows
    nx OptIn
    winpe Yes
    To use or not to use BOOTSECT.EXE ? Attached Files
    Last edited by 514cubic; 04 Dec 2010 at 03:16.
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  7. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Pro 32 bits
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Mmmmm.... What happened to the courier new alignment?


    It all looked sooooo much more neat in the window for writing the post when the Courier New font was used instead of Verdana. Now all the alignment is gone!

    Sorry for the mishmash of GUI or Globally Unique Identifiers and their hexadecimal mysteries!
    Last edited by 514cubic; 04 Dec 2010 at 03:15.
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