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Windows 7: Bios Keeps changing boot order...

12 Jan 2011   #31
Peter Dalgaard

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Hello DeltaWar. I have the exact same problem.

I got my computer 3 weeks ago. 1 ssd disk as boot disk and one regular harddrive for media files such as pictures, etc.

Everything worked fine untill I moved all my photos to the bulk disk from my old computer. I used a flash memory and an external usb harddrive to move the files, and after that I have the same problem as you do.

On boot, it claims that I have no hard drive, check your cables yada yada. I press ctrl+alt+del and enter the bios. Go too boot order, harddrives, change place between ssd and the bulk disk and it works. Reset, and it works. Turn off the computer and wait a few hours and same problem as before. It changed back the setings in my BIOS and fail to load. I'm 50% sure it's not a soft ware problem, because then it should give the same problem when I restart the computer and im 90% sure it's not a battery problem on my motherboard. The clock is still working and all the other things I change stay the way I changed them.

Only thing I can think of is that it fails to detect the ssd drive as I turn it on the first time. The 2:nd time it actually tends to notice the ssd drive, but by then it has changed the boot order in the BIOS back again. I'm not a computer wiz, so I don't know if/how that could change.


I'll check back regularly to update with more information if needed.


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12 Jan 2011   #32
Deltawar

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Yes that is EXACTLY the SAME.

Its 100% not the battery. I swapped mine out for a new one and didnt change a thing.

Also on the OCZ website the firmware update they have is for 1.24, and mine already has firmware 1.25 so its not a firmware update issue, at least on my SSD, dont know what make you have.


And the SSD cant be going down, as its brand new.
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12 Jan 2011   #33
Deltawar

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Peter Dalgaard View Post
Hello DeltaWar. I have the exact same problem.

I got my computer 3 weeks ago. 1 ssd disk as boot disk and one regular harddrive for media files such as pictures, etc.

Everything worked fine untill I moved all my photos to the bulk disk from my old computer. I used a flash memory and an external usb harddrive to move the files, and after that I have the same problem as you do.

On boot, it claims that I have no hard drive, check your cables yada yada. I press ctrl+alt+del and enter the bios. Go too boot order, harddrives, change place between ssd and the bulk disk and it works. Reset, and it works. Turn off the computer and wait a few hours and same problem as before. It changed back the setings in my BIOS and fail to load. I'm 50% sure it's not a soft ware problem, because then it should give the same problem when I restart the computer and im 90% sure it's not a battery problem on my motherboard. The clock is still working and all the other things I change stay the way I changed them.

Only thing I can think of is that it fails to detect the ssd drive as I turn it on the first time. The 2:nd time it actually tends to notice the ssd drive, but by then it has changed the boot order in the BIOS back again. I'm not a computer wiz, so I don't know if/how that could change.


I'll check back regularly to update with more information if needed.



Just out of curiosity, IS your USERS folder on the C Drive, and you just have the bulk of your media added to your libary with adding a folder to that 'user' directory?

OR

Is your USERS folder NOT in C, but in D (OR any other drive) ?


As i used AUDIT mode when i done my fresh install, so i dont have appdata and users folders on the C DRIVE.


Does anyone think this could cause a problem as the system reffers to both C AND D Drives as system drives, (it labells both c and d drives when using backup n restore in the CP)
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12 Jan 2011   #34
gregrocker

 

Please post back a screenshot of your full Disk Mgmt drive map, using Snipping Tool in Start Menu. Tell us what is located where.

Did you ever reset the CMOS? Try again. Check the SATA controller setting before and after.
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13 Jan 2011   #35
Deltawar

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Yes i resetted CMOS.

Ive also notices, that when it doesnt boot as it cant find the SSD, if i wait on that screen for about 30 seconds and ctrl alt del, it will reboot and find the SSD and boot windows.

Its just like it doesnt find it quick enough on the boot.


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13 Jan 2011   #36
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

1) System Reserved should have no drive letter.

2) System Reserved should be active.

3) The best Sata port on your MB for SDD HD would be Disk 0.
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13 Jan 2011   #37
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
1) System Reserved should have no drive letter.

2) System Reserved should be active.

3) The best Sata port on your MB for SDD HD would be Disk 0.
Agreed I would move the SDD to Disk 0.


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13 Jan 2011   #38
gregrocker

 

Type Disk Management in Start Search box, rightclick on System Reserved partition to remove Drive letter, then mark System Reserved partition Active in Disk Mgmt.

Next power down to swap DISK0 cable to Win7 HD. Now boot into BIOS setup to change Boot Order to DVD drive first, then DISK0 Win7 HD as next in order to boot.

If Win7 will not now start, boot into the Repair CD or Install DVD Repair console, accept any offered Repair. If it fails to start again, boot back in to DVD/CD to Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
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14 Jan 2011   #39
Deltawar

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

I made the system reserved as ACTIVE, and tried the repairs 3 times as you said.

Problem still persists, its not a case of a bad installation as im not getting bootmgr is missing anymore, but its a case of the SSD not being detected on BOOT.

also i just noticed my PC seems to treat the SSD as a removable mem stick not a HDD.


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14 Jan 2011   #40
gregrocker

 

The reason for this is that the preferred SATA mode for installing Win7 is AHCI when enables "hot plugging" which treats a HD like a removable drive so that it can be unplugged without powering down the computer - by Safely Removing Hardware.

I don't think this provides a clue except that SATA controller is indeed recognizing the disk.

What makes you think the BIOS isn't recognizing the SSD? Is it registering in BIOS?
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