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Windows 7: TrebleBoot Windows XP-32, XP-64 and Win7 (all pro.)

18 Mar 2011   #1

win7 pro 64bit
TrebleBoot Windows XP-32, XP-64 and Win7 (all pro.)

Really usefull site !.
Perhaps you fellows can help with this, its all quite new to me.
I have a Dell T3500 with Win 7 pro x 64bit pre-installed and want to add
XP pro x 32bit and XP pro x 64bit to boot.

The tutorial deals with dualboot, can it be modified for treble boot ?
The Win7 installed is as supplied and no prog's or apps have been installed by me,
I have a dell reinstallation disc for 7, so could remove 7 and start with XP first if expedient.(would have to reload win7 drivers etc separately)
From some reports on the system it looks like the 7 install wasnt all that clean, guess it was Monday morning in Poland, Ah just keep banging keys till it works.

The hardware as follows,

Controller: Intel ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R/DO/5 series/3400 series SATA RAID

Disc 0: 149.01GB 10K-rpm

Partition 0: OEM told its for diagnostic, 2.01GB inaccessible.
Start offset 63x512 .
Partition 1: Recovery, expanded by dell to 950MB, System, Active, Primary.
Start offset 4210688x512 .
Partition 2: C: Win7 os, 146.07GB Boot,Pagefile,Crashdump,Primary.
Start offset 6156288x512 .

Disc 1: 500GB unallocated, for XP-32 and XP-64.

Disc 2 and 3: 2x 1TB unallocated, for Raid 0, data etc. + Ext backup and dock.

Toshiba USB FDD PA3109U-1FDD. USB Floppy drive.

Treble boot ? Would much appreciate some advice.
Regards and thanks

My System SpecsSystem Spec
18 Mar 2011   #2
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate

Hello Domie, welcome to Seven Forums!

Yes it's possible, I've had as many as 7 (if I remember correctly) booting all off the same Windows boot manager.

The best way to do what you want is to disconnect the Windows 7 HDD data cable from the mobo for both of the XP installs, leaving only that HDD connected, install one XP and get it booting good and then install the second to separate partitions, you may need to use Easy BCD to add an entry for the second XP after it's installed.

EasyBCD Free Boot Manager Software

When both XP s are booting, connect the Windows 7 HDD and you can use the Dell one-time boot menu (the F12 hot-key) to select which HDD/OS to boot at PC startup.

This way the HDDs wont be tied together by the use of the Windows boot manager.
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19 Mar 2011   #3

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient


If your Win XP CD, does not support your Sata Controller, you will need to load drivers to use at F6.
Load Sata Controller drivers with a floppy disk is the best way.
SATA Drivers - Load in Windows XP Setup on Dual Boot
SATA Drivers - Slipstream into Windows XP CD

Your Dell T3500 has a Intel Sata Controller.
You can download your F6 Sata Controller drivers from here:

Intel Sata Controller Drivers

As your MOBO has a interal floppy Controller, you may find that you can not load Sata Controller drivers at F6 using a USB Floppy drive.

TrebleBoot Windows XP-32, XP-64 and Win7 (all pro.)-capture1.png TrebleBoot Windows XP-32, XP-64 and Win7 (all pro.)-capture2.png

My System SpecsSystem Spec

19 Mar 2011   #4

Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86

I'm having trouble understanding why you want to install both 32- and 64- bit versions of XP. Do you have any older 64 bit programs that need to run in XP and cant run in 64 bit Win7? If not, I dont see any point. 32 bit apps run fine in either 32 bit windows or 64 bit windows and 16 bit apps dont run at all in 64 bit windows. For the newer 64 bit apps, you already have the preinstalled win7.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Mar 2011   #5

win7 pro 64bit

I use some CAD software that is a bit 'sensitive' it has problems even with the wrong XP service pack! Expensive to upgrade.
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19 Mar 2011   #6

win7 pro 64bit

You say: As your MOBO has a interal floppy Controller, you may find that you can not load Sata Controller drivers at F6 using a USB Floppy drive.
Ah the old number 22 eh!.

I have tryed the USB Floppy drive under win7. It works ie it reads,formats and responds to safe removal, does this indicate it will work for loading xp sata drivers, or is there a bit more to it.
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20 Mar 2011   #7

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient


As WinXP setup will find the interal floppy Controller first, with no drive fitted, you may recieve this screen after Pressing "S".

Setup cound not find a drive on your machine to load
OEM drivers from floppy disk.

* Press ESC to cancel loading OEM drivers.
* Press F3 to quit setup.

TrebleBoot Windows XP-32, XP-64 and Win7 (all pro.)-win-xp-f6-2.png

TrebleBoot Windows XP-32, XP-64 and Win7 (all pro.)-capture22222.png

My System SpecsSystem Spec
16 May 2011   #8

win7 pro 64bit

Hi Fellows
Been a while, been away, anyhow back to the triple boot check list.
Have been looking at sata drivers for XP and there seems to be a few, the offerings from the Dell download site for my machine are many but seem to boil down to;

Matrix Storage Manager (OS pre-install driver only):- (A17) for XP x32 [where A17 is a dell thing] (A15) for XP x64 (A01) for Win7 [this is not listed on Intel's site]

Rapid Storage Technology (pre-OS install):- (A04) for Win7 and XP x32 and XP x64.

(pluged an old A: drive into MBo, works OK)

Whats the rub, do I use all of these drivers, or is it RST or MSM for my hardware?
Am I better of using Dell's drivers or the Intel downloads site for the XP installations?

The bios settings give SATA op mode for RAID.
1) RAID autodetect / AHCI =RAID if signed drives, otherwise AHCI.
2) RAID autodetect / ATA =RAID if signed drives, otherwise ATA.
3) RAID on = SATA configured for RAID on every boot.
Option 3) is the current setting, is that the way to go?

How to Download and Install Drivers in the Correct Order | Dell UK
The link above is about the correct order to install drivers, any comments?

Did Charles Darwin discover Plug,n,Play.

Best Regards
My System SpecsSystem Spec
17 May 2011   #9

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient


Your F6 drivers are in post3.

Installing drivers when Windows is installed, follow Dell's Correct Order.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
25 May 2011   #10

win7 pro 64bit

Well Dom
This should make things clearer.

RST is just the new Intel name for Matrix Storage Manager.

Intel drivers are generic the Dell drivers may be customised to your system, choose Dell

Recommend existing 'raid on' for your system. Changing it may have unforseen problems.

NCQ is supported with RST in RAID and AHCI mode.

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