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Windows 7: trying to dual boot with XP

08 Apr 2011   #1
NotSoYoung

32 Bit Windows 7 Pro (trying to dual boot with XP)
 
 
trying to dual boot with XP

Hi,
I have two 320GB internal hard drives. One has nothing on it, i cleared it (supposedly) to install XP in a dual boot config. I cannot get XP to install. I have run the WD tools and checked the drive, it is reportedly working fine. However, below is a screen shot from my windows 7 environment. Note the F drive partition says 298GB yet the Properties page shows 150 free and 170 Used but there are no other drive letters visible.

Tried disconnecting all drives and installing just the "F" drive (jumpered and cabled correctly to be C) and still could not do a clean install of XP on a system with no other hard drives.

I did install and then uninstall Windows XP mode (uninstalled Virtual machine too) could it be a hang over from that?

I'm stumped. Been out of the tech side of PC's for too long... Any and all help greatly appreciated.

trying to dual boot with XP-f-drive-.jpg

Thanks




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09 Apr 2011   #2
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Try removing the partition altogether in Windows 7, and then creating a new partition during the installation of XP, with the Windows 7 and External drives disconnected.

EDIT: Remember that you will need the motherboard's SATA driver during the XP installation also.
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09 Apr 2011   #3
IownAmoneyPit

Windows 7 Pro x 2/Windows 10 Home/10 Pro//Windows 10 Insider Preview ?
 
 

Here is one of Brink's tutorials to further aid in your quest to dual boot XP and Windows 7 - Dual Boot Installation with Windows 7 and XP
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09 Apr 2011   #4
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

First check for all the Win XP drivers for your hardware on the manufacturer's web site.
If your Win XP CD, does not support your Sata Controller, you will need to load drivers to uses at F6.
Load Sata Controller drivers with a floppy disk is the best way.
SATA Drivers - Load in Windows XP Setup on Dual Boot
OR
SATA Drivers - Slipstream into Windows XP CD
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09 Apr 2011   #5
gregrocker

 

As mentioned you'll want to unplug other HD's during install, then after install boot via the BIOS as follows:

Set preferred HD as first to boot in BIOS setup: How to Boot your Computer

Then boot the other HD by tapping the key given on BIOS splash screen for one-time BIOS Boot Menu:
Asus - F8
HP/Compaq - Esc
Sony - F2
Acer - F12
Gateway - F10
eMachnes - F10
Toshiba - F12
Dell - F12
IBM/Lenovo - the blue Thinkvantage button
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09 Apr 2011   #6
WolfSoul

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Retail
 
 

I gave up on dual with XP.. Xp's too much trouble when you have AHCI enabled
And my guess that might be the issue here... are drives set to IDE or AHCI in BIOS?
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09 Apr 2011   #7
fafhrd

Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS
 
 

I have taken to getting rid of AHCI instead on ordinary business machines with legacy requirements for XP - Intel's Win7 chipset drivers for SATA seem to be buggy and resource hungry, and the roughly 10 -12% improvement in raw data transfer rates is barely noticeable with Windows anyway.

When everybody is on Win7-64 and SATA2 is the norm, it will be different.

I'd rather have a cool processor and slightly slower transfer rates than an overheating, unstable system, with short drive lifetimes.
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10 Apr 2011   #8
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
I have taken to getting rid of AHCI instead on ordinary business machines with legacy requirements for XP - Intel's Win7 chipset drivers for SATA seem to be buggy and resource hungry, and the roughly 10 -12% improvement in raw data transfer rates is barely noticeable with Windows anyway.

When everybody is on Win7-64 and SATA2 is the norm, it will be different.

I'd rather have a cool processor and slightly slower transfer rates than an overheating, unstable system, with short drive lifetimes.
True, but best to set BIOS to Default.

Scenario
1) Set BIOS from AHCI to IDE.
2) CMOS battery goes flat.
3) Replace battery.
4) BIOS will reset to AHCI.
5) Windows will not boot.
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10 Apr 2011   #9
fafhrd

Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS
 
 

Hi Theog - thanks for that, but it's outside my experience - I've never had a CMOS battery failure (I still have a 1995 Toshiba Satellite Pro 400CDT running windows 98, that I fire up now and again, but they must have made things better in those days )
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10 Apr 2011   #10
NotSoYoung

32 Bit Windows 7 Pro (trying to dual boot with XP)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Try removing the partition altogether in Windows 7, and then creating a new partition during the installation of XP, with the Windows 7 and External drives disconnected.

EDIT: Remember that you will need the motherboard's SATA driver during the XP installation also.
Seek,
Thanks for the suggestion. Drives are PATA (machine fairly old). The drive is stand alone. Basically what you suggest is what I did. The drive was fully formatted (tried QF first that failed) during the XP installation when it was the only drive. No boot Record as far as I could tell, it wouldn't boot.

Oh yes... the XP format only formatted the first 157Gb. Weirder and weirder.

So I'm still clueless.
Thanks



UPDATE: (Success)

Per the suggestion I deleted the volume in Windows 7. Re-cabled and ran the system without a formated hard drive at all, just the "empty" one. Ran the manufacturers installation disk (XP SP1A) not my Windows XP upgrade installation disk that I used before. This time the drive was fully formatted and XP went in without a hitch. All is good.

Thanks to those who offered help and suggestions.
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