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Windows 7: New 1tb Drive best practice for partitions

25 Apr 2011   #11
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BugMeister View Post
..meanwhile, back OT

- I wouldn't bother with a partition..

a 1TB drive is a beautiful thing..


*hides specs*
So you image a 1TB partition?
A 50-60GB image takes ~20-30min.

You don't accept that transfer rate is impacted by the spinning disk radial velocity?


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25 Apr 2011   #12
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

mjf is right. Disk radial velocity does play a role.
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25 Apr 2011   #13
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bill2 View Post
Per EULA, you cant use the same license on two different drives.

Quote:
1. OVERVIEW.
a. Software. The software includes desktop operating system software. This software does not include Windows Live services. Windows Live is a service available from Microsoft under a separate agreement.
b. License Model. Subject to Section 2 (b) below, the software is licensed on a per copy per computer basis. A computer is a physical hardware system with an internal storage device capable of running the software. A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate computer.
Source: License Terms
Of course you cannot legally USE the same license more than once. Furthermore you are not entitled to use the 32bit and 64bit options at the same time. It's one or the other.
What I have is a cold standby HDD, in a box, ready to go when physically installed. This is no different to keeping an image.
1) It cannot be used on another computer
2) It cannot be used on the same computer while the original disk is installed (it has the same disk signature).
3) It is not a hardware partition or blade.

This definitely does not contravene the EULA and it is $60 well spent.

Have I missed your point?
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25 Apr 2011   #14
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Of course you cannot legally USE the same license more than once. Furthermore you are not entitled to use the 32bit and 64bit options at the same time. It's one or the other.
What I have is a cold standby HDD, in a box, ready to go when physically installed. This is no different to keeping an image.
1) It cannot be used on another computer
2) It cannot be used on the same computer while the original disk is installed (it has the same disk signature).
3) It is not a hardware partition or blade.

This definitely does not contravene the EULA and it is $60 well spent.

Have I missed your point?
Thank you. Finally someone with some logic.
Never thought about the disk signature. But I see where that might be a problem.
Personally I have never had the need to have both drives with the OS installed in the system at the same time.
That may be a problems for the OP.
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25 Apr 2011   #15
JeremyAlexander

Windows 7 Profesional 64 Bit
 
 
EuLA Responce

I must have missed something
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25 Apr 2011   #16
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JeremyAlexander View Post
the software is licensed on a per copy per computer basis. It is the same cpu serial # and motherboard serial#. It will be the SAME COPY ON THE SAME COMPUTER that's the point! BTW I have made a copy of a partition and then used windows recovery from the windows dvd to make it bootable - just says windows 7 (recovered). I know for an absolute fact this worked on the RC version I got from MS so I don't know what spooky files not on the partion that shootist is talking about and/or whatever they are windows startup recovery fixes them.
I really don't understand what you mean with the eula statements I'm not going to put the partion into a different machine. If my HD crashed tomorrow I most certainly will not shell out another $180 to microsoft for another copy of windows any more than I will repurchase any of my Games For Windows Live games, so respectfully you don't know what your talking about. I can think worst case scenerio I would have so many days to activate the other one and have to discontinue use the old. Besides essentially what you telling me is I couldn't remove my old HD and put in just the new HD and install windows -Your Nuts if you really belive that!
I think you are wrong. You even need a seperate key if you install a second copy in a virtual partition on the same system. But the way mjf has described, it should work.
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25 Apr 2011   #17
JeremyAlexander

Windows 7 Profesional 64 Bit
 
 
EULA Responce

the software is licensed on a per copy per computer basis. It is the same cpu serial # and motherboard serial#. It will be the SAME COPY ON THE SAME COMPUTER that's the point! BTW I have made a copy of a partition and then used windows recovery from the windows dvd to make it bootable - just says windows 7 (recovered). I know for an absolute fact this worked on the RC version I got from MS so I don't know what spooky files not on the partion that shootist is talking about and/or whatever they are windows startup recovery fixes them.
I really don't understand what you mean with the eula statements I'm not going to put the partion into a different machine. If my HD crashed tomorrow I most certainly will not shell out another $180 to microsoft for another copy of windows any more than I will repurchase any of my Games For Windows Live games, so respectfully you don't know what your talking about. I can think worst case scenerio I would have so many days to activate the other one and have to discontinue use the old. Besides essentially what you telling me is I couldn't remove my old HD and put in just the new HD and install windows -Your Nuts if you really belive that!
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25 Apr 2011   #18
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JeremyAlexander View Post
I must have missed something
You missed a full discussion on licensing. Which was deleted by a Mod and I received a warning for calling the perceived licensing stated by someone else idiotic.

Not really that much.
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25 Apr 2011   #19
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I think you are wrong. You even need a seperate key if you install a second copy in a virtual partition on the same system. But the way mjf has described, it should work.
Yes that is fact. You need a second license to install the OS into a virtual machine. It is by all rights a different PC, although a virtual one.

What and how this discussion started was with the Idea that you can not have the same license loaded on more then one hard drive at a time. Even if that other hard drive isn't being used.
That is completely inaccurate.
Then someone came back with you could have 1-10-200 image files of that install. Well if I can have a image, which for me only take 7 minute to load on a drive, then I can have a backup drive ready to go at any time. And I can at my choice switch them in and out of the SAME system without breaking any EULA.
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25 Apr 2011   #20
JeremyAlexander

Windows 7 Profesional 64 Bit
 
 
Not wanting to argue anymore

I really don't want to argue about this anymore, but I know this works, besides If I changed the drives around in the bios whatever it looks for for drive platter whatever??? would be on the boot drive wouldn't it? And Yeah a Virtual Machine is a different computer cpu, memory, mobo. I just can't believe that a HD change is enough to throw out a licence. Pretty sure (at least in XP) it used cpu, memory, and HD for the licence. Tomorrow when I get my HD I'll try it and follow up. All I really wanted to know was the best way to partition a 1tb HD for best gamming performance. Thank You all for your time.
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