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Windows 7: Upgrade dvd: vista to 7 in different language using custom install

14 May 2011   #11
Johnfisher

Windows 7 professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello again.



If I may ask a question?


Do you want to save the old Vista settings into the new Windows 7 installs or do you want to start completely fresh with a clean, fresh install?
You may

I prefer a nice clean install. That always feels good .

So that's why I wondered if the custom installation with upgrade media, using the format option during this progress, is really a clean installation. As stated above, this indeed is the case .


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14 May 2011   #12
Johnfisher

Windows 7 professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Some odd answers on that thread :

Quote:
You'll be unable to boot from a Windows 7 Upgrade DVD to perform a clean install.
Quote:
The installer won't allow booting from install disk to install on a machine with no OS in place if the install key is an upgrade key.
Yes there are some odd answers, although the second quote seems logic...

Also this link seems to confirm a positive answer to my first question: Windows 7 Upgrade Paths. It says 'Cross-language in-place upgrades (for example, en-us to de-de) are not supported.' A contrario, that could mean not using the in-place option (but clean install using custom install) is supported.
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14 May 2011   #13
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi John,

You will be fine with what you want to do.
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14 May 2011   #14
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Have a thorough study of Option Three of this tutorial at the link below, all it requires is to download the MediaBootInstall.reg file and save it to the desktop, then a couple clicks to do the work-around, you don't have to actually do anything with/to the Windows registry.


Do a Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
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14 May 2011   #15
Johnfisher

Windows 7 professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Hi John,

You will be fine with what you want to do.
That's quite soothing .

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Have a thorough study of Option Three of this tutorial at the link below, all it requires is to download the MediaBootInstall.reg file and save it to the desktop, then a couple clicks to do the work-around, you don't have to actually do anything with/to the Windows registry.


Do a Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
Thanks, I noticed this option and concluded it's a clean install.

But I wonder why you should choose this workaround if you can get the same result with just a custom install?
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14 May 2011   #16
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

John,

You won't need to do the option 3 - that is only if the installer doesn't see you currently have a qualifying version on the machine.
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14 May 2011   #17
Johnfisher

Windows 7 professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
John,

You won't need to do the option 3 - that is only if the installer doesn't see you currently have a qualifying version on the machine.
Yup I noticed:

Quote:
If you get an activation error while doing OPTION ONE or OPTION TWO above, then you will need to use this option instead documented by Paul Thurrott's Supersite Blog: Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media.
So I would suggest not to use this option if not needed. Custom install (with format) is much easier. But since Bare Foot Kid did, I wondered why he did so .
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14 May 2011   #18
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

He's just quoting from the tutorial.

I haven't seen the installer fail to recognize you already have windows on there - still , it might happen - you never know.

It is normally for if your existing HD dies and you need to reinstall from the upgrade dvd to a new blank HD.

Ideally you wouldn't need to do that even if your HD dies - you should have made backup images - surprising how many people don't.
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14 May 2011   #19
Johnfisher

Windows 7 professional 64bit
 
 

From that point of view, it's safe to suggest option 3; it works for any situation . And it's good to know that if anything fails, you still can manage the install.

It's a great tutorial by the way.
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16 May 2011   #20
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Thats very good info to keep in mind though.

If for example ...

1) You do a Clean install on a new HD
2) You Clean the Drive prior to installation, or do a Secure Erase etc

In either case, the installer will not see any form of a previous installation.

When you boot from the disc now, youll have a unallocated drive, and according to Windows this is a NEW installation and no longer qualifies as a Upgrade.

The Workaround will be needed in this case.


So keep this in mind, if in the future you do something along this line.


If you just format the existing installation with Windows Installer, it counts as a upgrade, and will be a Clean install.
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