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Windows 7: Testing OS on another internal drive?

02 Jun 2011   #11
theog

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Outlander View Post
Are you sure you went from ACHI to IDE & not IDE to ACHI.

I tried ACHI first and no go. Switched to IDE and all was well. Then had to do the registry trick to get Windows to see AHCI, then rebooted and changed to AHCI in the BIOS. I just Googled the problem and there were a lot of others with the same issue using the same work around. I never learned the why of this problem?[/QUOTE]

AHCI : Enable in Windows 7 / Vista


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02 Jun 2011   #12
daler

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks for all your help, guys

BFK: The links and instructs to setting up the partition on the spinner worked well. I was able to reassign the drive letter C: to it and boot from it. But now, how do I isolate the 2 OS from one another during Windows bootup (it asks which one to use, even though my main OS copy is labeled C: ) - I wanna keep the partition test OS as a backup ..but inactive.

But, only after removing 3 or the 4 sticks of RAM would Windows install. At 4 sticks, neither the SSD nor the new partition on the HDD spinner would accept the Windows install. In fact, when Windows Installation cancelled with a message "Windows cannot install required files", yada I waited for another 30 secs then the comp crashed with BSOD error 0x0000003B.

I yanked out all but one RAM stick and Windows installed on the partition ok. Did the same on the SSD ..ok. Reinstalled another RAM stick (for total of 2) and so far the system appears stable.

Greg: I totally forgot about your previous comments from a while back regarding Clean All command -- damn! ..so much has happened since that thread -- I must reread it
Anyway, after taking Greg's advice, I called Kingston for a 1/2 hour chat. They gave me lotsa good info about my SSD. I referenced our previous thread about using Diskpart Clean All, and they didn't have a problem with its use. They also referred me a bootable SecureErase as an alternative erase utility. As for RMA testing of the SSD, they pointed me to use either ChrystalDiskMark or Seagate's Seatools kit. I'm playing around with those now.

As background on this whole mess, it has been blue-screening almost every day (for the last 3 weeks) upon rebooting the comp after overnight shutdown. It's been back and forth to the comp builder but even though tok with him, when it arrived back here and it was reloaded with software, it either ran unstable during the day or BSOD regularly every morning upon bootup. Memtest and Prime95 tok on the RAM. It was as when something was cold and stress applied to the component, it crashed. All periphs were removed including the UPS ..still crashed after sitting overnight. It's only when I decided to reinstall Windows (so much file corruption to salvage the OS) and it failed to install and then crashed, it started to become evident that it was either the SSD or RAM. With all but 1 RAM still removed and some success, it now seems to point to some RAM incompatibility (even though they all are the same RAM family). -- at least I hope we're on the right track, and not something wrong with the motherboard instead..


Also, it sure would be nice to get back my original Windows Backup Image that I had saved to an internal data drive -- it would same me a pile of time reinstalling and setting up a myriad of software after each massive crash, then OS reinstall. When I try to Restore it (by any Windows means), Windows Restore reports that the Backup cannot be found on this computer. There were 2 Backups taken a different times of program software install.
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02 Jun 2011   #13
theog

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Windows Restore looks for Restore Points,not backup images.
System Restore
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02 Jun 2011   #14
daler

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I understand what system restore is (I set and use the restore points regularly), but what can I use to Restore the Windows Image Backup I saved to another internal disk? For example, I tried booting from the Windows Repair disk and the utility there could not find any backups on my system even though 2 separate images have been saved.
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02 Jun 2011   #15
gregrocker

 

Have you stress-tested the RAM with memtest86 CD overnight? What were the results? You want to test all sticks and then if problems exist isolate the problem stick and/or slot.

Simultaneously I would post up the bugcheck from the BSOD to our Crashes forum to get a definitive cause:https://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-d...tructions.html
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02 Jun 2011   #16
daler

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My builder Memtested the RAM before shipping it to me. His testing docs say it was left for 36 hours. I did my own Memtest (via DOS) for 5 hours and Prime95 for another 5 hours. Nothing showed untowards, all tok. The system had a clean bill of health ..until I loaded it up and rebooted it after leaving it off overnight, and then it started pooping out.

As for the BSOD, I didn't save any -- and there were weeks of assorted error codes, sometimes several a day, with a guaranteed error upon morning bootup -- again maybe 8 different codes. But I'll keep your submission suggestion beside me for when/if the BSOD start up again.

The system is now running "stable" with just 2 (matching) sticks of RAM (4gb). But I have not reloaded much of my major software into the newly reinstalled OS and then restarted it from cold ..I don't wanna do all that work and have it crash again, and reinstall yet again ..and no, doing a Windows Image Backup doesn't seem to work when it comes to Restoring ..at least it didn't before, when I needed it (now gun-shy).

The SSD tok, so my suspicions now run to RAM incompatibility. G.Skill can't tell me exactly what is the best RAM for this motherboard (Asus M4A88TD-V EVO) ..hah.. they suggested "try and see" (this RAM is from a previous faulty mb -- same Asus family only this one newer model).

I am now gonna make sure the RAM pairs are matched in their slots -- they weren't when I got the comp back from repair ..but apparently, that shouldn't matter much as they are the same model at least. Interestingly, the tech had to boost the BIOS voltage on the RAM to "make it work properly" (1.65 vs spec1.50).
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08 Jun 2011   #17
daler

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
At last I may have a fix

After all these months of problem tracking and builder-run-around, I think I may finally have found the cause of most of my [current] comp troubles: intermittant RAM sync problem. The crashes occurs after a cold boot, and after comp being left off for a lengthy time. The crashes tend corrupt the system data at various points. No sense in submitting the BSOD codes as there are just too many of them happening at various times. Anyway, looks like I'm not the only one with "compatibility" issues with this combo of Asus mb and G.Skill Ram.

I happened upon a solution here at the G.Skill forum. For those of you interested:
Asus motherboards + G.Skill memory: Cold boot issues and possible workaround - GSKILL TECH FORUM ..specifically post #71

Comp is still under builder's warranty so I will try for satisfaction there first.

Thanks all for your previous suggestions of help, guys
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08 Jun 2011   #18
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Good luck with the warranty.
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08 Jun 2011   #19
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Thanks for the update.
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