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Windows 7: In need of simplified install instructions for SSD (please read).

17 Jun 2011   #81
Anesthetize

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
You can use Ted's tutorial to reinstall. However, your SSD is new and I would not use the 'Clean All' command, just use clean and follow the rest.
How does 'clean' differ from 'clean all?'


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17 Jun 2011   #82
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
You can use Ted's tutorial to reinstall. However, your SSD is new and I would not use the 'Clean All' command, just use clean and follow the rest.
How does 'clean' differ from 'clean all?'


The clean command only removes the format configuration data and the clean all over-writes the entire SSD / HDD with zeroes. ( 0 )
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17 Jun 2011   #83
Anesthetize

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
You can use Ted's tutorial to reinstall. However, your SSD is new and I would not use the 'Clean All' command, just use clean and follow the rest.
How does 'clean' differ from 'clean all?'


The clean command only removes the format configuration data and the clean all over-writes the entire SSD / HDD with zeroes. ( 0 )
I'm not sure what format configuration data means. Umm, the 'clean' all completely wipes the SSD as if it were new?
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17 Jun 2011   #84
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Ted, I believe a secure erase is preferable to a clean all on a brand new SSD. It being only 1 day old, I think the clean command is sufficient.
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17 Jun 2011   #85
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anesthetize View Post

How does 'clean' differ from 'clean all?'


The clean command only removes the format configuration data and the clean all over-writes the entire SSD / HDD with zeroes. ( 0 )
I'm not sure what format configuration data means. Umm, the 'clean' all completely wipes the SSD as if it were new?
Basically, the clean command is nothing more than a low level format.
The clean all command writes zeros to every sector of the drive externally.
A secure erase writes zeroes to every sector also, but it is an internal command to the drive and the SSD does it itself.
This article posted by Ted should explain secure erase.
Clean all can be destructive to the drive if done too often.
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17 Jun 2011   #86
Anesthetize

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

This...is becoming a bit much for me tonight. I think my best bet would be to forget about it entirely today, and start fresh tomorrow.

I know you guys are doing your best to help, and I really appreciate it, but my lack of knowledge with hardware, and windows etc. has every reply you guys give me raising more questions. And it's not because you're not explaining well enough, it's just because I, again, lack the understanding with this stuff.

I'll come back tomorrow, and start fresh.

Thanks again.
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17 Jun 2011   #87
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

We'll be here tomorrow.
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17 Jun 2011   #88
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Compare "clean" to "quick format" (it works only on the control records) and "clean all" to "full format" (it writes a buch of stuff on the disk and takes much longer).
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18 Jun 2011   #89
Anesthetize

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

Okay. An early start here. My goal today is at least to wipe the SSD to get it ready for a fresh install of Windows. I have a faulty GPU it seems, so I need to get another one sent out which'll probably get here Monday now. So while that gives me a couple of days to get this SSD sorted, I'm much prefere today to be the day.

Okay, I just want to point this out. In your replies, can you guys please keep things as simple as possible! and if 'computery' terms need to be said, perhaps add some kind of explanation as to what it is/how it's done etc. I'd much appreciate that!

I'm going to pretend like the rest of this thread doesn't exist for now, and start fresh. So, first question of the day:

I need my SSD to be as if I'd just bought it, completed wiped and ready to have windows 7 cleanly installed. What's the best course of action here?


Again, please post a reason why, and if that must include 'computery' terms, try to explain the whole thing in a simple manor.

You guys have put up with me this long, so there's hope for me yet!
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18 Jun 2011   #90
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anesthetize View Post

I need my SSD to be as if I'd just bought it, completed wiped and ready to have windows 7 cleanly installed. What's the best course of action here?[/b]

Again, please post a reason why, and if that must include 'computery' terms, try to explain the whole thing in a simple manor.
As far as I know, an SSD is no different than a regular HDD in your case. You don't need to do any advance preparation to do a clean install. I certainly didn't on my SSD and it performs fine. You can delete any existing partitions as part of the ordinary Windows install process when you boot from the Windows disc. You don't need to do a separate "completely wipe" operation.

There's nothing really special about an SSD install. Windows 7 is smart enough to know it's an SSD and will do what should be done like proper alignment and turning off defragmentation.

Just make sure all other drives are disconnected before you begin.

And make a decision on how many partitions you want and what size you want them to be before you begin. Most people just use a single partition on an SSD if it is 128 GB in size or smaller.

Unless I am misunderstanding something about what you are trying to do. I didn't review the entire thread.
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