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Windows 7: Another Missing Bootmgr FUBAR

24 Jul 2011   #1
boweasel

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 
Another Missing Bootmgr FUBAR

When starting the Win 7 PC I get the Bootmgr is missing. Press ctl, yadda, yadda, yadda.

It's an HP Pavilion All in One machine, and I can't get the F11 for restore or F9 for Diagnostics to work - it just ignores my input and gives me the bootmgr msg.

When I boot using a Windows 7 CD and select repair it takes me to the System Recovery Options screen, but no OS is listed, and as soon as I move the mouse pointer inside the box (to select Next or Load drivers), I get the little blue circle rotating clockwise. It's been rotating this last time for over an hour. I keep trying, expecting a different result (is that not the definition of 'insanity'?), but it never varies - no Operating System, and it won't let me do anything but press the power button.


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24 Jul 2011   #2
seavixen32

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
 
 

You could try the repair-install described in this tut:

Repair Install
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24 Jul 2011   #3
boweasel

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 View Post
You could try the repair-install described in this tut:

Repair Install
From the link you just sent
You can only do a repair install from within Windows 7.

Since I can't get past the missing Bootmgr, I'm pretty much disqualified from doing a repair install from within Windows.

I do have an update... The circle finally stopped and brought up a box saying it was searching for Windows installations. Ultimately that box went away, and I chose Next even though there was no OS listed. Hitting next just made the Recovery box disappear, and now I have just the blue background that originally surrounded that box. No circle. Just the blue background.

Okay, now I got a box saying it wanted me to insert a disk that had an image I had created. I got out of it, since I never created such a disk, and was able to get to the 'Choose a Recovery Tool' screen.

Startup Repair said it could not fix the problem, and command prompt seems to be useless since I cannot get to any drive but F: - which is the DVD drive containg the Windows disk.
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24 Jul 2011   #4
Gabriel69

windows 7 64bit
 
 

try changing the channel of your boot drive in the bios, worked for me
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24 Jul 2011   #5
Ztruker

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

Hard drive failure? Does the hard drive show up in BIOS Setup?

Try running the drive manufacturers diagnostic:

Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp.

HD Diagnostics
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24 Jul 2011   #6
boweasel

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
Hard drive failure? Does the hard drive show up in BIOS Setup?

Try running the drive manufacturers diagnostic:

Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp.

HD Diagnostics
Yes, the HDD show up in the BIOS, but it fails the SMART Extended self-test. The complete text is
WDC WD3200AAJS-65M0A0.
Failed.
Completed with the read element of the test failed.
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24 Jul 2011   #7
boweasel

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gabriel69 View Post
try changing the channel of your boot drive in the bios, worked for me
If only I knew what that meant or how to do it....
In the Phoenix Bios Setup Utility I can change the boot order, but I see nothing about changing a channel.
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24 Jul 2011   #8
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Run the Extended HD test. It's possible it can repair the HD. Afterwards from the Repair command line run Disk Check with the /f flag.

If you regain some functionality, copy out your files immediately this way: Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console

Then boot again into Startup Repair, see if it finds an installation. If not from Command line run bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot to try to jumpstart finding the installation. Then run Startup Repair.

Make sure HD is plugged into DISK0 with no other HD's or peripherals attached, set to boot after DVD drive in BIOS setup.

If Repairs fail you can try running full Factory Restore from partition or boot the Win7 DVD to clean reinstall. If it agrees, after reinstall test the HD and Disk Check again and frequently.
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24 Jul 2011   #9
boweasel

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Run the Extended HD test. It's possible it can repair the HD. Afterwards run
Uhhh, I must be misunderstanding you. I already posted this:
'... the HDD show up in the BIOS, but it fails the SMART Extended self-test. The complete text is
WDC WD3200AAJS-65M0A0.
Failed.
Completed with the read element of the test failed. '

Are you talking about some other diagnostic tool? Specifically one I download for Western Digital?
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24 Jul 2011   #10
boweasel

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Run the Extended HD test. It's possible it can repair the HD. Afterwards from the Repair command line run Disk Check with the /f flag.

If you regain some functionality, copy out your files immediately this way: Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console

Then boot again into Startup Repair, see if it finds an installation. If not from Command line run bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot to try to jumpstart finding the installation. Then run Startup Repair.

Make sure HD is plugged into DISK0 with no other HD's or peripherals attached, set to boot after DVD drive in BIOS setup.

If Repairs fail you can try running full Factory Restore from partition or boot the Win7 DVD to clean reinstall. If it agrees, after reinstall test the HD and Disk Check again and frequently.
Greg,
Since it doesn't find any OS, I don't think it'll allow me to run a chkdsk, with or without the f parameter. I have to actually get to the drive that has Windows installed to run a chkdsk if I remember correctly. Since I can't get to any drive but the X: and F: (neither of which have Windows).

I did run a Seagate Hard drive diagnostic, which ran for a hour, found 13 errors, but corrected nothing. 'Course, this is a WD drive, not Seagate.
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