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Windows 7: How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.

23 Aug 2011   #51
gregrocker

 

Maybe I didn't make it clear in my last post, you do not need a driver for your HD as Win7 already has it.

There is another reason the clone isn't working, likely found in the cloning process. This is why I suggested you try it again using Acronis' Seagate app.

Is the cloned HD seen by the BIOS, determined by entering BIOS setup at boot? Is it set first to boot and plugged into first SATA port on mobo?

Is Win7 marked System Active on cloned HD when viewing the HD using free Partition Wizard bootable CD?


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23 Aug 2011   #52
ariel5345

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Maybe I didn't make it clear in my last post, you do not need a driver for your HD as Win7 already has it.
You are clear.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
There is another reason the clone isn't working, likely found in the cloning process. This is why I suggested you try it again using Acronis' Seagate app.
I re-ran and re-cloned with acronis disk wizard. Here is an interesting picture.

How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-fujitsu-ide.png

It is marked IDE. Is that a clue?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Is the cloned HD seen by the BIOS, determined by entering BIOS setup at boot? Is it set first to boot and plugged into first SATA port on mobo?
I entered Bios (while new HD was in First and ONLY slot) and I went through everything and I do not know how to see if it is SEEN by bios. Yet My new drive is not listed anywhere in bios.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Is Win7 marked System Active on cloned HD when viewing the HD using free Partition Wizard bootable CD?
I assume I needed the bootable version, and I burned it, and yes...... it lists both partitions and the system reserve as Active. The C: partition is marked status=NONE/primary.

I then immediately went into diskpart in dos from shift/f10 and it listed both partitions as primary. I selected system reserve Partition and marked it as active.
Then it still would not boot. I went to repair using win install disk and in the system restore UI box my HD is not found nor seen. Only the D:drive DVD windows 7 install disk is seen.
I ran the repair 3 times. Windows said I need to remove whatever thing is new that I plugged in and try again.
The reason I think I need some driver is because windows repair=system restore box said If my System partition (HD) is not listed in this box then load drivers.
Seagate said that it will not be recognized allot of times and that I need a driver from my manufacturer.

Is this some kind of Hybrid IDE/SATA controller thingy? The old and new drives have the same connection. Though there is an adapter I have to change out on the tip of the connector. Yet this is pin for pin to be able to connect by snapping down into my laptop instead of sliding sideways into a connector.

I think the firmaware updates that HP has is to change the MOBO controller from IDE to Sata. Of course I do not know what I'm talking about.

Ps. I am not hardwired while doing all of this. If windows needs to connect to internet I do not believe it can unless the repair cd has wireless driver.

Please don't get frustrated with me.
I know I'm stupid.

Thanks again for the help. Your are awesome.


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23 Aug 2011   #53
theog

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Boot up using the Startup disk CD or Windows 7 DVD. (not the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Disk) If you have a Netbook, you will need a CD/DVD drive.
Make sure no USB drives are plugged in.

Try this:
1) Use the Rebuild BCD in this tutorial:
How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows

How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-startup-repair-4.png How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-startup-repair-5.png

than
2) Fix MBR.

How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-startup-repair-6.png


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23 Aug 2011   #54
gregrocker

 

Are you saying that you bought a SATA drive but are using an adapter to plug it into an IDE port because you don't have SATA ports on the mobo? Can you plug a new SATA HD into a SATA port? What ports are available?

What is the SATA controller setting in BIOS setup?

While in BIOS setup see how the HD is recognized.
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23 Aug 2011   #55
theog

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Hi Greg

HP/Compaq adapter

How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-hp-1.png


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23 Aug 2011   #56
ariel5345

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Are you saying that you bought a SATA drive but are using an adapter to plug it into an IDE port because you don't have SATA ports on the mobo? Can you plug a new SATA HD into a SATA port? What ports are available?

What is the SATA controller setting in BIOS setup?

While in BIOS setup see how the HD is recognized.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Hi Greg

HP/Compaq adapter

Attachment 171776
Yes that is the adapter. Further investigating shows that my old fujitsi hd is ide interface.

How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-fujitsu-ide.png

The Hp firmware updates for Hitachi SATA drives will change the controller from Ide to sata. I think it might work for The seagate I bought because the site said it was compatible with my model HP Presario.
I am thinking of doing this firmware update which I will have to load onto a usb key and then reboot and follow instructions. If it does not work with the Seagate I bought then I will order The Hitachi that I have already found that matches the supported model numbers at HP support site.
How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-hitachi-models.png
Unless you guys see a big NO-No.


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23 Aug 2011   #57
theog

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Quote:
The Hp firmware updates for Hitachi SATA drives will change the controller from Ide to sata.
Sorry, but it will not.

How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-capture1.jpg How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.-capture2.jpg


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23 Aug 2011   #58
ariel5345

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Ok.... I have a sata connector on both the new drive and the old drive. Yet the speccy report says my old drive has IDE interface. Yes both the drives I have look like the Sata picture you posted on the right.
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23 Aug 2011   #59
gregrocker

 

Can you plug them into a SATA port using a SATA connector?
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23 Aug 2011   #60
ariel5345

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Yes I have swapped them out 10 times in my Laptop. I just read that the firmware update will not take place unless I have one of the supported Hitachi HD's in my Laptop at the time. I think that Hp somehow was able to use Sata HD with IDE controllers. The supported HD for my Hp laptop (hitachi) all are sata drives, I googled them and They are all SATA drives. The one I have now in my laptop is IDE yet it plugs in just Like a sata.
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