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Windows 7: Start > Search crashes Windows Explorer

01 Aug 2009   #11
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
It's like my doctor, when I tell him it hurts when I touch this or that.

Don't touch it he always says.


My doctor always tells me smoking and whisky are going to kill me slowly. My answer: It`s OK, I`m in no hurry.


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01 Aug 2009   #12
Kari

 

OK, at least I now know the behavior of this issue. But it is really, really weird!

If I boot MSE being on and active, I get this issue. If I turn MSE off and reboot, then turn MSE on only after Win7 has stopped starting the services, everything works.

So my personal workaround is now to remember to turn MSE always off before shutting down, and remember to turn it on after booting.

Somebody there knows how to change the order services are started? It looks I could fix this if MSE were the last service to start. Really weird!

Kari
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01 Aug 2009   #13
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
OK, at least I now know the behavior of this issue. But it is really, really weird!

If I boot MSE being on and active, I get this issue. If I turn MSE off and reboot, then turn MSE on only after Win7 has stopped starting the services, everything works.

So my personal workaround is now to remember to turn MSE always off before shutting down, and remember to turn it on after booting.

Somebody there knows how to change the order services are started? It looks I could fix this if MSE were the last service to start. Really weird!

Kari
Isn't finding a security suite that doesn't crash your system a better way to go?
I know. You like solving problems. but hey, you have solved it.

But you don't want to be turning it on and off every time, do you?

If you do want to keep it. Maybe use the schedule service to auto start and stop it before shutdown and after boot.

I have fixed a problem with my soundcard like that.

When the control software of the card was on, and my system went to standby, it would crash on wakeup.

So I scheduled a "before standby" event to exit the control suite before standby.
And made another one after wake up to start the suite again.

works perfectly.

Maybe an option for you?
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01 Aug 2009   #14
Kari

 
I found it!

Some time ago I had problems with my VoIP software. I posted an issue which is still bothering me.

A couple of hours ago I decided to uninstall this VoIP application. Forgot to turn MSE off when I rebooted after uninstall, the workaround I told here earlier. After reboot I went normally to Start > Search to check that uninstall had deleted all files and folders, and didn`t really first notice that EXPLORER DIDN`T CRASH. It took some time to realize that, and then I started to play:

I reinstalled PhonerLite, this VoIP application, and true: every time I tried to use search Explorer crashed. I uninstalled PhonerLite, did a search or two and Explorer did not crash.

Ive now repeated this procedure about six or seven times. When PhonerLite is installed, Explorer crashes every time I try START > SEARCH. Explorer does never crash when searching whenever PhonerLite is not installed, or when the service is manually stopped.

I still think this is weird, and I have to find a new VoIP softphone, but at least my Explorer doesn`t crash anymore.

Thanks for interest, geeks.

Kari
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01 Aug 2009   #15
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Some time ago I had problems with my VoIP software. I posted an issue which is still bothering me.

A couple of hours ago I decided to uninstall this VoIP application. Forgot to turn MSE off when I rebooted after uninstall, the workaround I told here earlier. After reboot I went normally to Start > Search to check that uninstall had deleted all files and folders, and didn`t really first notice that EXPLORER DIDN`T CRASH. It took some time to realize that, and then I started to play:

I reinstalled PhonerLite, this VoIP application, and true: every time I tried to use search Explorer crashed. I uninstalled PhonerLite, did a search or two and Explorer did not crash.

Ive now repeated this procedure about six or seven times. When PhonerLite is installed, Explorer crashes every time I try START > SEARCH. Explorer does never crash when searching whenever PhonerLite is not installed, or when the service is manually stopped.

I still think this is weird, and I have to find a new VoIP softphone, but at least my Explorer doesn`t crash anymore.

Thanks for interest, geeks.

Kari
not that weird.

MSE and Voip want something at the same time.
DEP steps in and is preventing either of them to be executed.
But the requests keep on running until the buffers overflow.

Plain and simple software conflict. lol

but glad you figured it out to be the Voip, MSE combination.

great work!
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01 Aug 2009   #16
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
not that weird.
I still think it is a bit weird. This fix was a pure accident; I had not in a million years sought the problem from this VoIP / MSE combo.

Night is young, more whisky.

Kari
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07 Dec 2011   #17
kinma

windows 7 home premium x64
 
 
Had a simular problem

Had the search and index crash problem from start menu to. Turns out google chromes search toolbar was the problem.
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