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Windows 7: repair install

08 May 2012   #21


No need to remove the bloatware again after a Repair Install. It only reinstalls the OS, but keeps all programs, files and settings in place. If they're not there it's not going to reinstall them.

I don't recommend importing any user settings into a Clean Reinstall, just your User folders which are backed up first.

You can always Repair Install first to see how you like it. It also can be limited by the user settings which might have some corruption that survives.

At any time you can delete D to extend C in Disk mgmt: Partition or Volume - Extend.
I would make my Recovery Disks first so you have a way to restore to factory condition if you ever choose to sell the machine.

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09 May 2012   #22

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit

I believe I would like to perform the repair install and couple it with deleting/extending the space currently occupied by D: drive first to see how I like the results. Sooner or later I am sure that I will need to be familiar with both repair and clean install of OEM operating systems.

The repair task will have to wait until I get off work tonight or sometime tomorrow. Should I proceed using the tutorial as a guide, or would you like to give further advice before I begin?

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09 May 2012   #23


It will go smoother if you delete D first in Disk Mgmt, Extend C into the space.
Partition or Volume - Delete
Partition or Volume - Extend

If you haven't yet then I'd also Clean Up Factory Bloatware.

Then run CCleaner Disk and Registry tab followed by Puran Defragger Boot-Time Scan with Full Disk Check, after enabling Intelligent Optimizer on Addtional Operations tab.
CCleaner - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET
Puran Defrag Free Edition - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET

Now you have a leaner install, cleaned up and organized for the Repair Install
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09 May 2012   #24

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit

Thanks for the guidance. It looks like I have some more prep work ahead of me. I'm happy I asked.

There are a couple of things I would like to have clarified.
If my understanding is correct, CCleaner is user account specific and will require running it separately on the standard user account and the administrator account. Is that correct?

Exactly where in the sequence of tasks should I create the recovery disks you recommended in an earlier post? Do I need one set of disks for the resale of this computer scenario and another set for my own use if needed later?

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09 May 2012   #25


Just make the Recovery Disks now and save them. You can always copy them later. You'd probably only want them if you sell the computer to add back the bloatware which may add value if the buyer doesn't appreciate a cleaner install and wants all the junk.

Run CCleaner on both accounts to see.
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09 May 2012   #26

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit

understood ...

I'll post back with success, observations, and/or problems. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of having the time to follow the steps uninterrupted from start to finish. It may take a day or two. Fortunately there are two other machines I can use if things go foul. -- but -- I am confident that I will not run into problems.
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10 May 2012   #27


Take all the time you need. It actually helps discern performance changes as you add Updates and Programs.

I have some installs that are running great that nearly tip over from all of the Updates for Office 2007, so I hold my breath on those.
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11 May 2012   #28

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit

problems, but first an observation to share with you:
Ccleaner is user account dependent. The three areas I used prior to beginning the attempted repair verified this. Startup programs lists programs for the individual user account. Cleaner and registry in the (sequentially) second account revealed items not addressed in the first one. Maybe this information will prove to be helpful to you in the future.

here are my observations and the order in which the attempted repair progressed:
All preliminary tasks were performed with one hiccup. Deleting D: drive left the unallocated space unavailable for expanding C: drive into the previously occupied disk space. I figured no big deal since the area was not previously available.

Using How to Do a Repair Install to fix Windows 7 as a guide, everything followed the tutorial until step#16. This step was skipped by the process (not by me). My assumption is that the previously configured Internet and network settings were used.

Step#17 found a problem to repair. The error was .NET framework version 4 needs to be repaired. The first attempt displayed downloading 2 updates 0KB total. Something looked wrong with empty updates. The computer rebooted and repeated the process. Upon reboot I had to log into the administrator account, and the repair began where it left off. Curiously, the appearance of the monitor after reboot changed. Instead displaying in the same layout as viewed when performing routine computer tasks, it was a full screen window with no title bar. (I don't know if this is normal or the indicator of a problem.) The same error was displayed again. This time, the repair of .NET appeared to be successful.

Then Windows prepared the desktops to start up. They had to be prepared individually by logging into the user accounts. Both desktops were absent the wallpapers (no big deal). All icons were present and in the proper locations. A review of programs and libraries/folders did not reflect any problems.

It was really late, and I decided to shut down the computer. Why not? The instructions and my observation of the behavior of the computer did not indicate that the repair was still in progress. I figured I could continue later with the last steps because they are to be performed after being confident that all went well. Besides I was concerned because our neighborhood has frequent power interruptions, and I was operating the computer plugged in with the battery removed. I did not want to return to the computer in an off state.

Today the computer froze immediately before the login screen on every attempt. (I am posting this via safe mode to avoid having to go form room to room to use different computers.)

I spent a little time in research. I found that among the tasks performed by .NET framework version 4 are "provides user interface" and "graphic rendering". Trying to tie this in to what Lenovo support had told me (described in the early posts of this thread), I am wondering if a display driver or graphics driver could be the culprit. I include this in hopes that you can tell me if my troubleshooting mindset is correct.

If a driver is not the culprit, I have the following resources available for another repair attempt or clean install and file recovery.
set of recovery discs created in the initial hours of using this compputer when new
set of recovery discs created immediately before attempting the repair install
image backup created by Windows backup and saved to an external drive before creating the second set of recovery discs
the bootable flash drive used for the attempted repair

Where do we go from here?


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11 May 2012   #29


If C wouldn't extend into D space then D must have been a Logical partition and requires a second delete of the Logical Volume before becoming Unallocated space. There's not other reason C would not extend if nothing is in the way.

I would Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 to get Win7 unhindered by bloatware.

But I'd first establish a Clean boot to make sure a freeloader isn't causing problems, check the logs and system resources for clues, finish updates and test my hardware if not done yet: Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
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11 May 2012   #30

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit

D:drive did not extend on the first attempt. I deleted it again according to instructions, and it failed to extend on the second attempt also. Prior to the attempted repair I performed the following as outlined in the troubleshooting link you included. I scanned with MSSE, MBAM, and Spybot. I studied Event Viewer and Performance Log before I even started this thread. As limited by my level of understanding, I found nothing which addressed the issue of freezing before log in. I will begin the hardware diagnostics. FYI: I use Speccy periodocally to monitor temperatures. I have not used any temperature monitors which are viewed in the system tray. My research indicates that 60-65C is the upper safe range for the CPU. I have seen CPU and MOBO temps in the 140F (60C) range once (HDD temp). Therefore, I purchased a laptop riser with a cooling fan and tested it by loading it the computer up with processes. I managed to use all but about 200MB of physical memory and use 75-100% of CPU frequency as viewed in Task Manager. The temps rose to around 140F. Returning to normal usage dropped the temps to the 100-105F reange. The internal fan is running. I place my hand near the vent from time to time to check. drpepper How odd! Posting this on the XP machine, preview does not preserve new paragraphs. It merely inserts spaces. What's up with that?
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