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Windows 7: Clean install onto secondary internal drive?

29 Sep 2009   #11
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Thanks mn9500.
But the big question is whether those instructions are meant for the upgrade or the full version. It does say "Applies to all editions of Windows 7", I am not sure if full / upgrade are considered "editions"


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29 Sep 2009   #12
Stormwatch

Vista 64 Ultimate
 
 

I find myself in the same boat here. I've been searching like a madman trying to figure out the best way for me to install the Windows 7 Update version dual booted on a secondary drive. I've got Vista Ultimate, but I'm getting 7 Professional Upgrade. So, I know I can't do an in-place upgrade anyway. Hopefully we'll be able to just install it on a second drive and insert the original Vista CD to prove we have an original copy.
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29 Sep 2009   #13
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wallyinnc View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
... will be shown and have the option to install to a different currently installed drive ...
Yes
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I just don't know if the Win 7 UPGRADE disc will permit a clean install to a drive without an OS...
It is not completely sure. In this case indeed Microsoft has no definitive answer and there are conflicting pieces of info about it. We might to wait until the final version is really out. Sorruy for previous misleading answer
Thanks for the clarification, does MS usually keep this info to themselves until GA day? Marketing ploy? Ongoing discussion, decision not made?
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30 Sep 2009   #14
ignatzatsonic

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Workarounds

Thanks to everyone for the responses so far.

The bottom line seems to be we don't know the answers and won't until after October 22.

Accordingly, I am trying to make plans for a worst case scenario in which I would not be allowed to choose my current WD drive with a single data backup partition E as the destination for a clean install using the Win 7 retail upgrade disc. Vista resides only on the Seagate with C and D partitions.

I know that WD offers a free version of Acronis True Image to anyone. I just reviewed the PDF for that application. As I understand it, the only significant restriction is that the DESTINATION drive for any image restore MUST be a WD drive.

So, I assume I could make an image of C (Vista) to the D partition on my Seagate and then restore that image to my WD, making it the new C. All partitions and data on the WD would be wiped, leaving me temporarily without data backup. I would now have C (Vista) on the WD and could (presumably) do a clean install of 7 to that partition.

Alternatively, the Acronis app can also "transfer" a "system" to another disc. My reading of the PDF leads me to believe that means in real time--not from an image, and that you can transfer entire disks only, not single partitions from a multi-partition drive. That being the case, I think I could transfer Seagate partitions C and D directly to the WD drive. The previous E partition on the WD would be wiped. The WD would effectively be a clone of the Seagate and I could then (presumably) do a clean installl of 7 to C on the WD drive.

Can anyone confirm from actual experience that this "transfer" method will leave the source drive (Seagate C and D in my case) untouched after the transfer has completed??

From prior experience, I know that imaging tools are far from foolproof, so I would rather not get involved with them at all. I would rather have to reinstall a system from scratch than have the false impression that I have a valid and restorable image.

But in this case, I may have to rely on imaging if I cannot otherwise do a clean install to a drive not containing Vista.

Any comments on this idea or on the WD version of Acronis generally?? The downloadable version supports Vista, not Windows 7, but I don't see why that would matter as I would not be transferring a Windows 7 installation.
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30 Sep 2009   #15
Dave76

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Thanks to everyone for the responses so far.

The bottom line seems to be we don't know the answers and won't until after October 22.

Accordingly, I am trying to make plans for a worst case scenario...

I know that WD offers a free version of Acronis True Image...

So, I assume I could make an image of C (Vista) to the D partition on my Seagate and then restore that image to my WD, making it the new C. All partitions and data on the WD would be wiped, leaving me temporarily without data backup. I would now have C (Vista) on the WD and could (presumably) do a clean install of 7 to that partition.

Alternatively, the Acronis app can also "transfer" a "system" to another disc. My reading of the PDF leads me to believe that means in real time--not from an image, and that you can transfer entire disks only, not single partitions from a multi-partition drive. That being the case, I think I could transfer Seagate partitions C and D directly to the WD drive. The previous E partition on the WD would be wiped. The WD would effectively be a clone of the Seagate and I could then (presumably) do a clean installl of 7 to C on the WD drive.

Can anyone confirm from actual experience that this "transfer" method will leave the source drive (Seagate C and D in my case) untouched after the transfer has completed??

From prior experience, I know that imaging tools are far from foolproof...

But in this case, I may have to rely on imaging if I cannot otherwise do a clean install to a drive not containing Vista.

Any comments on this idea or on the WD version of Acronis generally??
Depending on the free space on the WD E partition you could add a partition, preferably first on the disc. If your backup drive is like mine, it's full. You may need to find a way to make free space for the new partition.

Not sure about the 100mb partition. Will this be added during installation of the OS if it's install on a single partition or will it have to be installed on the entire HD? Any experts comment?

If you don't have a partition manager try Partition Wizard it works with Win7 and 64bit OS.

The 'transfer a system to another disc' is the Clone feature. The new OS hard drive will have to be marked as active. If there are any problems run startup repair.

It's best to check your backup image by restoring it, to insure it's going to work.

When I moved Win7 RC from my eSATA external to my internal HD, first installed Win7 RC on the internal then restored the external backup image and everything was working the same as when it was on the external HD. I used Partition Wizard to make the new partition and Seagates DiscWizard, their version of Acronis, for the backup and restore. Haven't used the Clone feature. It's an exact copy so shouldn't do anything to the origional OS partition.
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