Can you do a clean install from an upgrade dvd?

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  1. Posts : 4
    Windows Vista HomeBasic
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    Can you do a clean install from an upgrade dvd?


    i need to know
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  2. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
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    mitch

    yes but your key may not work
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  3.    #3

    Custom overwrite


    From what I have read (and we will have to wait til 22nd to find out for sure) the cleanest install you will be able to get is a Custom overwrite over the XP or Vista you are upgrading. This is required for the XP but only an option for Vista. It means you will not be able to format the partition/disk but the Win7 does overwrite the older OS, putting your files in windows.old where you can locate and distribute them later, then delete the monster.

    MS specifically foreclosed the possibility here of being able to clean install using the old Vista "upgrade over upgrade" trick. And since the underlying XP or Vista system will have its license disabled once it is verified, for this reason they say install cannot be done to another partition.

    My sources here are TechNet and Ed Bott's columns from the past year.
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  4. Posts : 131
    windows 7 RTM
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    It appears that the best ( Only ) way to do a clean install with the
    W7 Upgrade disk, is to first do a clean install of Vista, than update over it.

    Not as crazy as it sounds. Just install vista using the clean install method,
    ie. format the HDD first. Than do not install any software, drivers etc.
    or make any configuration settings.

    Register Vista online and let it run its upgrades ( 59 at last count ) and if
    needed install SP2. It is not necessary to install SP1 as SP2 includes
    SP1. One or the other is required.

    Just the bare OS is left, which will leave a clean slate for W7 to work with.
    This procedure will have most of the benefits of a clean install.

    So many say a clean install is such a pain, but it is well worth the effort.

    Many of those nagging little problems, which I read about on this forum,
    everyday, will be gone.

    Just be prepared. Their are excellent instructions on this forum. It really
    is worth the effort.

    Let me know what you think!

    Richard
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  5.    #5

    I like it


    Keeping with Richard's theory of making the underlying Vista or XP as clean as possible, since it is only being overwritten with a Custom (cleanest) install using the Win7 upgrade disk, how about not even installing Vista/XP updates or SP's?

    Couldn't we just install XP or Vista to a zeroed HDD, activate and then commence the Win7 Custom overwrite upgrade? It will tell us if it needs anything else.
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  6. Posts : 131
    windows 7 RTM
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    Excellent point. I tried to do that and windows started the upgrades automatically as soon as it went on line.

    The problem is that it is necessary to be on line to register, thus their
    is no option to not accept the updates.

    Service pack 1 or 2 is required for the update to run.

    Wish it could be easier

    Richard

    EDIT:

    It occurs that if SP2 was downloaded in advance, than one could unplug the internet
    connection and complete the Vista install, than install SP2 before reconnecting the
    internet in order to register.

    SP2 should include most of the updates needed. This would save at least a little time.
    Last edited by rerice; 08 Oct 2009 at 03:43.
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  7. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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    Hmmm.....don't you get an option when you install Vista to not turn on automatic updates? At least you can go turn them off in control panel to save yourself the download.

    I'm pretty darn sure that you can activate Vista right after the install without getting updates or service packs and then upgrade from there.

    The only reason the double install is a PITA is for techies who like to rebuild quite a bit. However, my advice is to install, get it running, clean out the old windows.old folder and then use the integrated backup "System Image" utility to get an image of your Windows 7 install right at the start which is very clean. And then in the future just restore this rather than loading from DVD media each time.
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  8. Posts : 4
    Windows Vista HomeBasic
    Thread Starter
       #8

    from the sound of it the only way to truely do a clean install is to buy the full version which is what I have decided to do. Thanks for all your help.
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  9.    #9

    Yes I agree the HDD imaging with Win7 is the best ever, 20 minutes each way for several computers here for which I have made a recovery partition and backed up also to external.

    This is a great way to avoid upgrade double reinstalls, but will it hold activation? So far using it for RC and RTM reinstalls has held, but I wonder about upgrades.
    Last edited by gregrocker; 12 Oct 2009 at 20:50.
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  10. Posts : 90
    Ubuntu Lunix and Windows 7
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    mitchball said:
    from the sound of it the only way to truely do a clean install is to buy the full version which is what I have decided to do. Thanks for all your help.
    That extra $100 buys a LOT of convenience. If you can afford the full version, I think you will find that over time it's worth the cost especially if you like to tinker...er....experiment with the machine.
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