Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Verification: Windows 7 Upgrade Retail Disc on new HDD

20 Mar 2013   #1
chadh89

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 
Verification: Windows 7 Upgrade Retail Disc on new HDD

I have found several posts from 2009 that have mentioned the possibility of installing Windows 7 on a new/empty/formatted HDD with an Upgrade edition. I have not, however, found anything recent on this. I have an unused, full retail version of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Upgrade handy and am going to be building a friend a new PC, custom built. My question is, can someone verify that it is still possible to do a full and new installation of Windows 7 using an Upgrade disc on a brand new HDD?

Any help on this would be appreciated, and I do not mind telling him that he needs to purchase a new OEM or retail version if it comes down to it, being that it is his money ;-)


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
20 Mar 2013   #2
TwoCables

 

Yes:

Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media | Windows 7 content from Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows



I've done this myself about a half a dozen times, and I've recommended it dozens and dozens of times and it always works. There are 3 methods discussed, and Method #3 is usually the one that needs to be done.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #3
chadh89

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Thank you kindly for the quick response! That is actually one of the articles that I found, and the date is noted to be from 2009. I just wanted to make sure that this method still worked, so that I can have a fully functional and legal version of Windows 7 ready when I get the PC built.

I will go out on the ledge and give this a try, which should be sometime this weekend. I will then mark this complete if the method works as mentioned.

Thanks again!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

20 Mar 2013   #4
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Under the EULA it would still need a require copy of XP or Vista which is not used during the time is is being used to qualify for Upgrade version, even though the qualifier doesn't need to be installed: Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version.

Otherwise I'd take advantage of the price break for retail Builder's OEM since it is meant for exactly this situation.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #5
chadh89

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Thanks for the reply gregrocker. I was actually looking at the OEM version, but being that the Upgrade version of Windows 7 is more expensive and already available to me, I feel like Windows is technically still getting their money's worth out of this. I just wasn't sure that the Upgrade version would work as a clean install, and it still may not for me. I am not really familiar with their EULA regarding this, but I can see where it would be morally wrong regardless. But as I mentioned, I feel it is almost justified since the Upgrade version costs more than the OEM version.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #6
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

It's best to go with OEM for a PC you're building for someone else, so that they can reinstall easily without running afoul of EULA which has been skirted. So you are correct that it is the ethical thing to do, regardless of the amount of money which goes to MS. It is also the legal thing to do.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #7
chadh89

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Thanks for the advice, I originally was heading in that direction anyways since I'm not the one spending the money. I suppose if I can get my hands on XP or Vista for cheaper than the 7 OEM, I could then use my Upgrade and still be within the EULA. Otherwise, I will probably go ahead and wait for him to grab an OEM version.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #8
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

You might ask him if he has retail XP or Vista as that would qualify for his using Upgrade version, as long as he doesn't use it while it's serving as qualifier.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #9
chadh89

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

We settled on him just going ahead and getting the OEM version of Windows 7 Home Premium. One question I have about that regarding the replacement of parts though, is what parts can and can't be replaced without triggering an error with the activation? I know this locks to one specific computer, but is it the MOBO, HDD, etc. or just all of the PC components? I'm worried that if he needs a part replaced down the road, he may have trouble with this version. Thanks again for your help gregrocker, it is much appreciated.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Mar 2013   #10
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

It requires a combination of hardware changes to trigger reactivation so it can recalculate and record the Hardware Signature, however the only part which replacement by any other than the same model will cause it to fail reactivation is the mobo.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Verification: Windows 7 Upgrade Retail Disc on new HDD




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Is A Retail Upgrade Disc Tied to One Computer?
Years ago, I purchased a Windows 7 upgrade DVD at Walmart, to be used on my Gateway computer, which came with Vista. I paid 120.00 for it. My understanding is that I can only use this disc/license on the Vista computer. When I reinstall W7 on this computer, I first have to install Vista, then W7...
Windows Updates & Activation
Installing win 7 home premium again using retail upgrade disc?
Can this still be installed and activated? I have an older build of mine I've been using mostly for burning movies and music on. I upgraded my main systems cpu and motherboard and I would like to put those components in my burning tower as they would be an upgrade to it. The drive will no longer...
Installation & Setup
New CPU and MB, how to reinstall using my retail upgrade disc.
Hello, I will be replacing motherboard and CPU with vastly different models. I am currently running W7 installed from a retail upgrade disc from XP. I plan on using same hard drives and don't mind reformatting system disk. What is my best bet for a successful reactivation. Thanks in advance for...
Installation & Setup
Windows Anytime Upgrade from RETAIL Pro to RETAIL Ultimate
Hi there, question about license keys... I have a retail copy of Win 7 Pro. I would like to install it in a virtual machine on my current computer and use Anytime Upgrade to upgrade it to Win 7 Ultimate. When I finally purchase a new computer, can I use the same upgrade key to put Win 7 Ultimate...
Windows Updates & Activation
can't boot to 64 bit windows 7 retail disc
I wanted to custom install 64 bit 7 to a new drive on my xp 32 system. The 64 bit disc wouldn't load....got a "can't use this 64 bit disc on 32 bit system". Wasn't able to boot to this disc either (familiar with bios boot priorities). Figured I would install 32 bit to new drive...and it worked...
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 19:18.
Twitter Facebook Google+