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Windows 7: Windows 7 Beta to Windows 7 Retail

23 Oct 2009   #11
Saltgrass

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Others have had to use the old VIsta "upgrade over upgrade" trick: install Upgrade from boot without key, then run an Upgrade (also known as a repair) install over it from the desktop which should take the key and activate.
Wouldn't it be funny if they went to all that trouble for no reason. If it activated after doing this, since you activated with no OS, the fact it activated doesn't mean much yet.

When, or if, it is determined the requirement for a qualifying OS to be installed is enforced, then perhaps someone using the above procedure will have some credibility.


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23 Oct 2009   #12
gregrocker

 

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Others have had to use the old VIsta "upgrade over upgrade" trick: install Upgrade from boot without key, then run an Upgrade (also known as a repair) install over it from the desktop which should take the key and activate.
Wouldn't it be funny if they went to all that trouble for no reason. If it activated after doing this, since you activated with no OS, the fact it activated doesn't mean much yet.

When, or if, it is determined the requirement for a qualifying OS to be installed is enforced, then perhaps someone using the above procedure will have some credibility.
Exactly the point I was trying to make in the heat of it all last night. I ended up with several guys infuriated that I suggested they might have had their "upgrade over upgrade" hat trick activate because it was a full product key to begin with. They anklebit me through multiple forums insisting that only the double install trick would work, while dozens and now hundreds of reports were piling in of straightaway success on formatted boot installs with Upgrades.

And the double install might not even have been necessary for those who got key fail errors, since some got it to work by just going ahead with the install without key and activating afterward.
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24 Oct 2009   #13
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

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You shouldn't have to install XP but simply have the disk present when the prompt is seen by the Windows 7 installer. The idea is to boot up from the 7 upgrade disk for the first of two 7 installs
Just wondering if you have personal experience with this process???? You probably tested it to make sure it works...
The last upgrade disk I used here was for 95! I've staying stricly with full version disks since. Since many are now receiving the retail upgrade disks preordered many are running into problems like the product key not being recognised on the first install while not trying the double install method used for Vista upgrades.

Mainly upgrades are instended to do just that since product activation was brought in with XP. A previous activated version or installation disk was a requirement

Here the solution was simply buying the full version for use on custom builds and not simply upgrading any preinstalled OSs. I think we're all waiting what will be the working solution when no previous version is seen like a brand new drive on a brand new system lacking any OS.
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24 Oct 2009   #14
gregrocker

 

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You shouldn't have to install XP but simply have the disk present when the prompt is seen by the Windows 7 installer. The idea is to boot up from the 7 upgrade disk for the first of two 7 installs
Just wondering if you have personal experience with this process???? You probably tested it to make sure it works...
I think we're all waiting what will be the working solution when no previous version is seen like a brand new drive on a brand new system lacking any OS.
Here is the fix for Upgrade clean install to brand new drives: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp

It is also being given by MS for formatted drives that reject Upgrade key.

I have boot clean installed several today which all took the Upgrade key upfront. Others have had to insert key afterward, or upgrade over itself to get it to take key and activate.

The Vista upgrade over itself trick was widely used but thought to be defunct for Win7, but its baaaack. Previous OS keys have not been asked for since XP.
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24 Oct 2009   #15
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Not previous product keys but detection of a previous version already installed and activated for an upgrade or disk for seeing a clean install. As far as that site it's when you see things like...
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Since Windows 7 is simply a slightly updated version of Windows Vista ...
you have to start doubting the credibility of the author there unfortunately.

The guides here at SF are generally far more reliable and better to go by!

To add a further note on the Supersite I just ran into something to see on that.

Quote:
Windows 7 install trick saves up to $100

Popular blogger details how to do a 'clean' install using cheaper upgrade editions

By Gregg Keizer
October 23, 2009 03:57 PM ET

Computerworld - Users can do a "clean" installation of Windows 7 using an upgrade license to save $80-$100 over the price of a "full" edition, a popular blog reported today.
According to Paul Thurrott, who writes the Supersite for Windows blog, Microsoft's upgrade media and product keys can be used to do a full installation of Windows 7 on PCs that do not have an earlier version of the OS.
Microsoft's Windows 7 upgrades are designed to do "in-place" or "custom" installs on PCs running Windows XP, Windows Vista or one of the preview editions of Windows 7. But Thurrott said that a few simple steps lets users install upgrade editions, which are considerably cheaper than the full versions designed for fresh installations.
More at: http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...aves_up_to_100

Yet why is some are able to install 7 clean without any of that? A better reference to look over is seen at Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
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24 Oct 2009   #16
Landmine

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Night Hawk, again. Thank you so much.
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