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Windows 7: Windows Vista Home Basic → Windows 7 (upgrade ripoff?)

22 Oct 2009   #11
CIS

Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Disk4mat View Post
I thought Dell was offering free upgrades for PC's purchased between June and Oct? When you say you got it thru your ISP, did you call and order it from Dell or did the ISP get it from Dell and offer it to you?
Dell is offering the free upgrade, and we went into this purchase thinking we would be getting the free upgrade. Turns out, however, that the computer we ordered has Home Basic, (which I didn't even think was being installed on PCs anymore) and I only am now finding out that Home Basic simply cannot be upgraded to Windows 7, period. Unless some new development or announcement comes along from Microsoft.

I have heavily researched as to whether I could upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate from Vista Home Basic, but it is simply not technically possible because of Home Basic's lack of support for certain necessary components (such as Aero).


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22 Oct 2009   #12
CIS

Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Hello CIS and welcome to the SevenForums.

I really don't know where all this false information is coming from. According to Microsoft, you most certainly can do an in-place upgrade from Vista Home Basic to Seven Home Basic, Home Premium or Ultimate. Seven Professional is more complicated, in-place upgrade to 7 Pro is only possible from Vista Business. (Source)

Win7 upgrade installation media also allows you to do a custom (clean) install. For that you need an existing copy of Windows; in your case the pre-installed Vista Home Basic is enough.

Clean or upgrade, for you the Seven Upgrade disc is the right choice. You just have to decide the version.

Kari
Wow. Now I'm really confused. Since this source is from Microsoft I obviously trust it, but it goes against all other sources I've come up with (including the CNET one I posted).

Anyway, so since Microsoft is saying that Home Basic can indeed be upgraded to Windows 7, I have no idea why Dell (and HP) are not allowing free upgrades from Home Basic (see: https://win7.dell.com/Eligibility.aspx). It would seem to me that the only justification they would have for this is that they didn't think Home Basic-to-Seven upgrading was even a possibility.
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22 Oct 2009   #13
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Hello CIS and welcome to the SevenForums.

I really don't know where all this false information is coming from. According to Microsoft, you most certainly can do an in-place upgrade from Vista Home Basic to Seven Home Basic, Home Premium or Ultimate. Seven Professional is more complicated, in-place upgrade to 7 Pro is only possible from Vista Business. (Source)

Win7 upgrade installation media also allows you to do a custom (clean) install. For that you need an existing copy of Windows; in your case the pre-installed Vista Home Basic is enough.

Clean or upgrade, for you the Seven Upgrade disc is the right choice. You just have to decide the version.

Kari
Thanks Kari. Nice to know we were working together on something (and at the same time!)

I googled the misleading source given about Basic and it was from CNET Asia in July and is completely and utterly wrong.
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22 Oct 2009   #14
TheSchaft

Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
 
 

Check out this chart - http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files...rade-chart.png

And this article, where the chart appeared - Deciphering Windows 7 Upgrades: The Official Chart | Walt Mossberg | Mossblog | AllThingsD

The article and chart show that an upgrade or clean install in possible from Vista Basic to 7 Ultimate.
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22 Oct 2009   #15
CIS

Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheSchaft View Post
Check out this chart - http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files...rade-chart.png

And this article, where the chart appeared - Deciphering Windows 7 Upgrades: The Official Chart | Walt Mossberg | Mossblog | AllThingsD

The article and chart show that an upgrade or clean install in possible from Vista Basic to 7 Ultimate.
Great! What a relief. Thanks guys a lot for your help with researching this one. I was about to do some serious ripping on a poor unsuspecting Dell or ISP customer service rep. about this.
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22 Oct 2009   #16
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Thanks Kari. Nice to know we were working together on something (and at the same time!)
Remembering last weekend, I didn't write what I really think about giving this kind of false information

Nice to know we can agree about something!

Kari
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22 Oct 2009   #17
chavez27

Vista Home Basic
 
 

I didnt know they were still offering computers with vista basic on them.. Anyways I have a question as well. My cousin recently purchased 3 laptops that are eligible for the windows 7 upgrade program. He will not be installing them on his laptops so can I use one on MY Vista home basic laptop?? If I can what is the best/correct method to do so? In-place upgrade or Clean install? What is the difference between the both? How do I do it? sorry if i sound like a newb but ive never done this before and i want to learn.
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22 Oct 2009   #18
pacinitaly

windows 7 professional & ultimate 64bit laptops
 
 

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22 Oct 2009   #19
gregrocker

 

Doubtful you can use the manufacturers' OEM upgrades on another machine, but I'm gonna try since my roomie doesn't want his. Depends on how they package those disks. I'm concerned that the manufacturers might put all the bloatware in the OEM upgrade disks, since they make most their profit nowadays from sponsors bloatware.

Otherwise it is a much better deal than people buying today with WIn7 installed since they get the bloatware, until they find a clean OEM to reinstall.

I would image my Vista HDD and save it, then try the in-place upgrade that reinstalls all the programs, files and settings. If it is not as snappy as it should be, you can reimage your Vista to the HDD and reinstall with a Custom clean install either over the Vista (puts files in windows.old for resdistribution later) or to a formatted second partition or HDD.
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12 Dec 2009   #20
Juan Handed

vista
 
 

I also ordered two HP laptops in September and it was equipped with Vista Home Basic.I believed at the time that all Vista OSs were eligible for a free upgrade.I just went to the HP website to check on how to uprade to Windows 7 and my computer and product# is listed as eligible,but my Vista Home Basic makes it not eligible.

I was completely unaware of this.

I don't know who take this up with,HP or Microsoft? It seems like reading the posts above that VHB is indeed upgradable to 7.

The other question I have is...I have a dual core processor,what would I have to do to upgrade to the 64 bit OS ?
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