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Windows 7: Doing a Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version

24 Oct 2009   #111
gregrocker

 

Upgrade disks will allow you to:

From the XP/Vista/RC desktop:

1) do an in-place Upgrade (reinstalls all of your programs, files and settings),
2) do a Custom overwrite of the XP/Vista/RC which places all of your files in windows.old and replaces everything else
3) do a Custom install to a another partition or HDD. Another HDD will then be dual-boot unless you unplug the XP/Vista drive, switch cables or change it to boot in BIOS, mark it active, and run Startup repair.

From boot:

1) do a formatted clean install using Custom>Advanced tools which can delete existing partitions, then create new partitions to format and install.

Many running Upgrade from Boot report their key being accepted upfront, others have had their key rejected upfront but continued install and were able to activate from Computer>Properties activation link afterward. A few have also then had to do an Upgrade over the new installation from the desktop (aka "Repair Install") which allowed them to put in the key upfront or afterward. If all fails there is a registry fix here being given by MS Tech Support.

Make no mistake, being able to do Clean Installs to formatted metal from Upgrade media is a huge benefit and effectively makes Upgrades the same as Full Retail. But to be covered, hang onto your XP/Vista disk for the life of your 7Upgrade disk, and use the great new Win7 Backup Imaging to save a copy of your installation so reinstalls are a thing of the past and your HDD can be reimaged in 15 minutes.


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24 Oct 2009   #112
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Make no mistake, being able to do Clean Installs to formatted metal from Upgrade media is a huge benefit and effectively makes Upgrades the same as Full Retail. But to be extra careful, hang onto your XP/Vista disk for the life of your 7Upgrade, and use the great new Win7 Backup Imaging to save a copy of your installation so reinstalls are a thing of the past.
This brings up a few interesting questions... I'm thinking outloud! LOL!
  1. Would it be better to copy the contents of the install DVD to a folder or a drive partition?
  2. -OR-
  3. Or would there be any advantage to storing the .iso in a folder or partition? <-- you can always use one of many tools to extract the files later...???
Maybe I'm answering this myself, but it might not make a difference. What are your thoughts ppl?

Also, for some interesting web content on the topic of clean installs w/upgrade dvd (pre launch) there was a lot of confusion and madness at first... even between experts like Paul Thurrot and Harold Wong (a MS employee and blogger)... Wong was Wrong...LOL
Harold Wong's Blog Site : Rebuttal to “Windows Weekly with Paul Thurrott - Weekly 121: Wong Was Wrong”
and here
The TWiT Netcast Network with Leo Laporte

LOL!
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24 Oct 2009   #113
gregrocker

 

What did Leo say about this? I missed him today.

I always back up all my ISO's for easy unzipping, or reimaging. That way I never have to reorder disks for anything.
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24 Oct 2009   #114
Howard Kaikow

Vista
 
 

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Hello SilverGator, and welcome to Seven Forums.

Yes, you can do a clean install (format) with your upgrade Windows 7 and activate it.

So, you are confirming that with the upgrade media and no operating system on the hard drive whatsoever, you can simply install this clean and then input the upgrade key when you have finished and it will activate.

From your tutorial, i see no proof being gathered whatsoever that you ever had a previous copy of a Microsoft based operating system.
Hi Parks,

Yes, that's what I am confirming.

I created a new unallocated 40GB partition, then proceded to do a clean install of the Upgrade Windows 7 Home Premium. After installing, I manually activated it without a problem and got the Genuine Software logo.
What is a "new unallocated 40GB partition"?
Does that mean that one creates a partition in Vista, but does not assign a drive letter?

Or does that mean you have just left a chunk of 40GB unallocated?

My intention is to:

1. Shrink my Vista partition from 285GB to 80GB, running Acronis Disk Director in Vista.

2. Using Acronis Disk Director in Vista, create 2 partitions G and H. H would be for non-OS files. G would be for Win 7.

3. The questions are:

a. Do I need to install Win 7 in G by booting the Win 7 upgrade media?
b. May I install Win 7 to G, while booted to Vista?

The goals are:

1, Have Vista on C, Win 7 on G, whether I am booted to Vista or Win 7.
2. Not modify anything on C, except for Win 7 putting its loader files on C.
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24 Oct 2009   #115
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What did Leo say about this? I missed him today.

I always back up all my ISO's for easy unzipping, or reimaging. That way I never have to reorder disks for anything.
It wasnt today, was a 5 or 6 weeks ago.
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24 Oct 2009   #116
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Howard Kaikow View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post


So, you are confirming that with the upgrade media and no operating system on the hard drive whatsoever, you can simply install this clean and then input the upgrade key when you have finished and it will activate.

From your tutorial, i see no proof being gathered whatsoever that you ever had a previous copy of a Microsoft based operating system.
Hi Parks,

Yes, that's what I am confirming.

I created a new unallocated 40GB partition, then proceded to do a clean install of the Upgrade Windows 7 Home Premium. After installing, I manually activated it without a problem and got the Genuine Software logo.
What is a "new unallocated 40GB partition"?
Does that mean that one creates a partition in Vista, but does not assign a drive letter?

Or does that mean you have just left a chunk of 40GB unallocated?

My intention is to:

1. Shrink my Vista partition from 285GB to 80GB, running Acronis Disk Director in Vista.

2. Using Acronis Disk Director in Vista, create 2 partitions G and H. H would be for non-OS files. G would be for Win 7.

3. The questions are:

a. Do I need to install Win 7 in G by booting the Win 7 upgrade media?
b. May I install Win 7 to G, while booted to Vista?

The goals are:

1, Have Vista on C, Win 7 on G, whether I am booted to Vista or Win 7.
2. Not modify anything on C, except for Win 7 putting its loader files on C.

I cant answer all your queries, but an unallocated partition is just space that been set aside for creating your final partition. Partitioning a HDD is a multi step process. You still in some cases have to choose the type of file structure, FAT32, NTFS, etc. and then format.

If you need info on using Disk Management which is built into Windows... Partition or Volume - Create New

Personally I like GParted for my partitioning duties... but Ive used Windows utilities also!
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24 Oct 2009   #117
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darryl Licht View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What did Leo say about this? I missed him today.

I always back up all my ISO's for easy unzipping, or reimaging. That way I never have to reorder disks for anything.
It wasnt today, was a 5 or 6 weeks ago.
If you want to listen to just the section of the show I linked to above, it starts at 17:24 in... remember that this was 5-6 weeks ago and alot has been learned since!
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24 Oct 2009   #118
VxThrasherxV

Windows 7
 
 

what im wanting to do when i get windows 7 is
completely get rid of vista and just keep 7
will "custom install" keep all my files on my hard drive?
i dont remember what i did with the beta but it kept all of my documents where they were and i dont wanna go get it if its gonna reformat my computer

Just curious from the pervious post
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24 Oct 2009   #119
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

If you want to keep your files, do an in place upgrade. A custom or clean install will erase everything in the partion that you chose for the installation
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24 Oct 2009   #120
gregrocker

 

A custom install run from Vista/XP will save your files in windows.old folder if it is an overwrite of the Vista/XP partition, however it will not save your files to windows.old if you install to another partition or HDD, you can copy them over via explorer after install.

Always back up your files anyway, and remember to create and save an image of your finished install with Windows7 great new Backup Imaging so that reinstalls are a thing of the past.
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