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  1. Posts : 276
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
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       #261

    I'm not sure if I confused you, but my modem has a built-in router. I can try powering down both pc's and modem/router and then plugging in directly after turning everything back on to see if I get a connection, but I'm not sure there's a way for me to distinguish if the built-in router is defective. The modem obviously works though because the win8 machine is still connected.

    Yes, router is provided by ISP. Okay, I'll try and give them a call then.

    Change adapter settings: I only have two - wireless network and local area network.

    No, all I have plugged into the pc are my mouse and keyboard.

    Okay. Thanks a lot, Greg. I appreciate all your help. I'll try and call my ISP in the meantime.

    gregrocker said:
    Did you plug wire directly into modem? Try that now after power cycling the modem.

    This will narrow it to router or modem so you know who to call.

    If it connects from modem then the problem is your router. Is your router provided by your ISP? They have tech support on weekends normally.

    Also look at Network and SHaring>Change Adpater Settings. How many adapters are listed there. Do you have anything else plugged into the PC. I get "Unidentified network" when I plug a crossover cable between PC's to transfer data.

    I am getting ready to take my dog to the beach but will text my friend and fellow MVP Rayda to look in as she is one of the best in the world at networking and resolves these for me regularly.
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  2. Posts : 276
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #262

    I know, I thought the same thing, but no the browser wouldn't load.

    Slartybart said:
    A silly question perhaps. What happens if you launch Internet Explorer?
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  3. Posts : 276
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #263

    Now that you mention it, whenever I was plugging the ethernet directly into win7 machine I looked over at the win8 machine and it showed a 5 bar icon as though it was still connected (normally the icon is an image of a computer). Could that be because the built-in router was still broadcasting a signal to the win8 machine?

    Slartybart said:
    drat!
    arayfo1 said:
    Wired
    Slartybart said:
    arayfo1: How does the Win8 machine connect to the Internet?
    Wired or wireless?
    but wait he says....

    can the Win8 box connect wirelessly? I mean, does it have a wireless card in it?

    and then I mean can it connect wirelessly
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  4. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #264

    So I understand this....

    Are you pulling the ethernet out of the Win8 box and pluggin it into the Win7 box?

    The network icon changes from computer to wireless(bars) on the Win8 machine - do I understadn it correctly?
    That would indicate a ethernet card and wireless adapter - not uncommon.

    but it can help having a working connection on another machine.

    edit: and when you plug the ethernet into the Win7 box, you do NOT connect?
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  5. Posts : 276
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #265

    "Are you pulling the ethernet out of the Win8 box and pluggin it into the Win7 box?"

    Correct.

    I asked my mom (it's her pc) and she confirmed that it has bluetooth.

    "edit: and when you plug the ethernet into the Win7 box, you do NOT connect?"

    Correct.

    Slartybart said:
    So I understand this....

    Are you pulling the ethernet out of the Win8 box and pluggin it into the Win7 box?

    The network icon changes from computer to wireless(bars) on the Win8 machine - do I understadn it correctly?
    That would indicate a ethernet card and wireless adapter - not uncommon.

    but it can help having a working connection on another machine.

    edit: and when you plug the ethernet into the Win7 box, you do NOT connect?
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  6. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #266

    I'm not overridding Greg's suggestions, I'm offering my own technical opinions.

    Hold off on power cycling for now. The Win8 box seems fine with the Wireless Cable modem/router.

    I probably wouldn't bother calling the provider, everything else but your box seems to be working fine.

    arayfo1 said:
    I'm not sure if I confused you, but my modem has a built-in router. I can try powering down both pc's and modem/router and then plugging in directly after turning everything back on to see if I get a connection, but I'm not sure there's a way for me to distinguish if the built-in router is defective. The modem obviously works though because the win8 machine is still connected.

    Yes, router is provided by ISP. Okay, I'll try and give them a call then.

    Change adapter settings: I only have two - wireless network and local area network.

    No, all I have plugged into the pc are my mouse and keyboard.

    Okay. Thanks a lot, Greg. I appreciate all your help. I'll try and call my ISP in the meantime.

    gregrocker said:
    Did you plug wire directly into modem? Try that now after power cycling the modem.

    This will narrow it to router or modem so you know who to call.

    If it connects from modem then the problem is your router. Is your router provided by your ISP? They have tech support on weekends normally.

    Also look at Network and SHaring>Change Adpater Settings. How many adapters are listed there. Do you have anything else plugged into the PC. I get "Unidentified network" when I plug a crossover cable between PC's to transfer data.

    I am getting ready to take my dog to the beach but will text my friend and fellow MVP Rayda to look in as she is one of the best in the world at networking and resolves these for me regularly.
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  7. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #267

    Seems like a good time to take a break. It sounds as though Rayda will make short remedy when schdule permits.

    I'll check back this evening.

    A thought!

    If needed, you can do screenshots and use a thumb drive to move them to the Win8 machine to post.
    It 's a bit of fuss on your side, nut having that will make it eaiser on this side.

    Please see https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9733-screenshots-files-upload-post-seven-forums.html for the preferred method of posting files and images on Sevenforums
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  8. Posts : 11,408
    ME/XP/Vista/Win7
       #268

    Check the LAN settings.

    Internet Options>Connections>Lan settings

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  9. Posts : 4,566
    Windows 10 Pro
       #269

    gregrocker said:
    If Device Manager tells you a driver is the latest then you are online!

    It had to connect to Window Updates to tell you that!

    Open Internet Explorer to check the web.
    I don't mean this rude in any way, but where do you get that idea? Disconnect from the internet and run a driver update check, it will tell you that you have the latest even if you don't. This alone does not mean they are online.
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  10. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #270

    I'd like you to reboot your machine and then I'lll ask about your wireless configuration

    It sounds as though you're runnning up again Automatic private IP address isues.

    There's an easy workaround - hard code an ip address, gateway, and DNS servers. Let me gather some pictures to post.

    You boot your machine.
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