Default HD no longer bootable after adding a SSD

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  1. Posts : 13
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       #11

    AddRAM: Here is a screenshot of the Disk Management with only the WD connected. The drive letters were automatically assigned by Windows as C, D, E. May be they will change to Z, E, F when both the WD and Corsair are connected.
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  2. Posts : 13,576
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       #12

    But, I see you deleted the Recovery Partition.

    If you ever want to delete the system reserved partition and add it and the 16 GB of un allocated space to C, let us know we`ll help you with that
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  3. Posts : 13
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       #13

    I didn't notice it Maybe the PW tool did it.
    But thats okay, I am glad it didn't delete my E: or F: ( though I have backups of E and F, they are linked to Dropbox and SugarSync and having to copy again is a pain)
    I now have 2 bootable disks and recovery disks, so I should be okay.
    I will ask right away, how do I add the 16GB to the current C or D or E volumes?

    Edit 1: I found the following Warning on EasyBCD Tutorial:

    Warning : When you copy the bootmgr from the 100MB System Partition to the C:\ partition, you loose the Windows Recovery Environment on that system. It is recommended you make frequent images to protect your system.

    Maybe this caused the loss of Recovery Partition ??
    Last edited by caballo; 14 Jul 2014 at 02:27. Reason: New information added
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  4. Posts : 13,576
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       #14

    You can only add it to C because that`s what it is next to.

    You would first have to delete the system reserved partition, then you would have to run startup repair to write the system files to the C partition. As you can see now, the system files are on the system reserved partition, and it`s marked active, you need to mark it inactive. PW will do this.

    You would use the Windows 7 install dvd to run startup repair, up to 3x to get windows booting off the C partition once you delete the SR partition.

    You can then use PW to add the space to C.

    Startup Repair

    Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
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  5.    #15

    System Reserved is still marked System which means it is set up to boot the OS, but the Active flag has wrongly been moved off of it to C without doing the necessary 3 repairs to move the System flag to C.

    If you want to keep System Reserved since it is already set up to boot the OS then Mark SysReserved Partition Active to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

    If you want to get rid of System Reserved and gather all of that space into C then run 3 Startup Repairs with C marked Active until the System Flag moves to C, Delete System Reserved, then follow these steps to use the PW feature that allows you to annex space to/from any partition or unallocated space even if the partitions aren't adjacent or differ in type: How to extend partition easily with Partition Wizard - video help.

    Don't delete System Reserved first if you want rid of it because if the repairs to C fail you have no fallback.

    If you want to add more data partitions then convert the existing one to Logical using How to set partition as Primary or Logical with Partition Wizard then add as many adjacent Logical partitions as you want.
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  6. Posts : 13
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       #16

    AddRAM, gregrocker: Thank you for the details.
    I decided to leave the WD drive like this for now. My main intention of this thread was to figure out a way to make the WD Drive bootable without having to delete the original E:\ and F:\ volumes. This is now achieved.
    I wish the recovery partition was not lost, but that is okay. 16GB lost space is not that important.
    Really appreciate you taking the time to help out.
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  7. Posts : 13,576
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       #17

    If you don`t have 2 Windows 7 licenses, 1 of the OS`s will not be usable after 30 days anyway. ( Not positive on this as you used Recovery Discs ) but 99% probability.

    So I`d get your ssd perfect and activated for when that day comes, then you can delete the C partition and the system reserved partition on the Hard drive, then make 1 partition out of the unallocated space you`ll have.

    Very Important: As Greg has said, the system files are still on the hard drive, are you POSITIVE you DISCONNECTED the hard drive when you installed windows 7 on the ssd ?

    Unplug the HD and boot to the SSD, does it boot ok ? I know you said it does, but check again.

    If done properly, and windows is installed to a pre partitioned drive, it should look like this. Note the system files are included. Normally you would also see a Page File, yours shows on the hard drive, which also makes me think you didn`t unplug the hard drive, unless you turned off the page file on the SSD.
    Last edited by AddRAM; 22 Apr 2015 at 17:48.
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  8. Posts : 13
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       #18

    I didn't think about the licensing. Thanks for letting me know. Will the license get disabled even if both hard drives are installed on the same Motherboard?

    To give you a complete picture, here are more details:

    Aug 2011 -
    • Purchased Desktop that came with 6GB RAM and 1TB 5200 RPM WD HD

    Sep 2011 -
    • Purchased 16GB RAM and 90GB Corsair SSD.
    • Replaced 6GB Factory RAM with 16GB Purchased RAM
    • Created Recovery Disks
    • Unplugged WD and Connected SSD and Installed Win 7 using recovery disks.
    • Connected WD back and made partitions on it into Z:\, E:\, F:\ as mentioned in the original post.



    Didn't realize at that time that WD got converted to Dynamic.
    Since then I have been using SSD only to boot and WD was just secondary drive for storing files.
    Had BSOD once every few days since the SSD was installed, got tired of it and last week starting working on trying to boot from WD.

    Currently, the SSD is disconnected and only WD is connected.
    I will disconnect WD later tonight and check if I can still boot from SSD.
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  9. Posts : 13,576
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       #19

    Eventually the SSD would ask you to activate windows, do you have a COA on the computer case ?

    Use that to activate windows 7 on the ssd, delete the windows 7 and System reserved partition off the hard drive and make a new partition for storage and disk images.

    Personally, I would do a clean install on the ssd, with the HD UNPLUGGED because the ssd is still not right. You have to be positive the ssd boots on it`s own.

    Clean Install Windows 7

    SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

    SSD Alignment
    Last edited by AddRAM; 22 Apr 2015 at 17:48.
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  10. Posts : 13
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       #20

    Are you suggesting this because of the BSOD?
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