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Windows 7: XP installation not allowing Advance Options

06 Nov 2009   #11
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Are you booting from the disk?

You only get Custom advanced formatting options when the installer is booted.
Are you talking about the Windows 7 installer, or the XP installer?


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06 Nov 2009   #12
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Are you booting from the disk?

You only get Custom advanced formatting options when the installer is booted.
Are you talking about the Windows 7 installer, or the XP installer?
Any installer, as far as I can remember, has to be booted to use Custom Advanced tools to Delete, Create and Format partitions.

I see the OP just wants access to already created partitions to install his XP, but since his partition created for XP needs correct XP formatting it needs to be done from boot, I believe.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by auzoloto View Post

It then starts loading XP, rather than giving me the Advanced Options which would allow me to install XP to the partition created.

It then reboots and repairs Windows 7.

Any ideas how I can overcome this?
This is unusual but might be because of incompatible formatting of the partition created for XP.

Problems are also always to be expected when installing a legacy OS last.

Anyone else know what this means?
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06 Nov 2009   #13
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

He's booting from the CD. Although I haven't tried partitioning my laptop drive and installing XP after-the-fact, I never had my XP install skip steps and decide to automatically start installing itself. The OP never gets to the part where you tell XP anything, so my money is there's a legacy BIOS setting that needs to be switched, especially since his PC came with Vista and had XP drivers added later.

I'm going to check the manual to see if there is any mention of special settings to install legacy-type OS's.

Hey auzoloto, there's a BIOS update available, dated 24 Oct 2009. Have you updated your BIOS?
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06 Nov 2009   #14
gregrocker

 

...and the SATA issue(s) you mentioned earlier

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by auzoloto View Post
Hi, I have updated some of the info that is discernable from the output.

Further research suggests that XP requires emulation to enable installation and the BIOS must support "El Torito" emulation. It maybe that mine does not!
The El Torito (named after restaurant in Palo Alto where sketched on napkin) emulation mentioned means the HDD lower address boot sector needed to boot.

Another reason to install XP first, if this is the emulation missing.
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06 Nov 2009   #15
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Arghhhhh, I forgot he has a laptop - the manual is worthless. It might be worth a shot if he slipstreamed SP3 into XP, since the original XP was out waaaaaay before dual core and SATA and all of the neat new stuff we enjoy today. Or, the Windows Virtual PC w/XP mode could be something worth trying, if a true dual boot isn't necessary. I had no problems installing XP PRO into a Virtual PC I created - I found the one available for download didn't really work too well for me, but my own version worked like a champ.

I just read another tutorial, and it recommended not formatting the XP partition you created using the 7 disk management utility. Did you format the partition?
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09 Nov 2009   #16
auzoloto

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks to all for your input. I have tried the following without success:
  • updating BIOS - the more recent dated BIOS file does not load: the computer tells me the (older) one already installed is newer.
  • I have tried switching on/off the legacy boot in setup
  • I have tried booting from floppies as per Microsoft recommendation for when a CD boot will not work. This just loops through turning off , on etc
  • I have tried installing from an USB CD drive - this took me further and gave me an option to install on the partition but then refused to do it. After this Windows 7 was unable to repair itself and I had to do a complete reinstall.
  • I cant install XP first and then Windows 7 as the Samsung r620 does not come with system disks - only system restore disks returning it to where it was when it left the factory.
It looks as if I am going to have to pay the £120 for Windows 7 Professional upgrade which states I can run most programs that work with XP - I have my doubts!
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09 Nov 2009   #17
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Hold on a second. Earlier you said you had an original XP disc, but now you state it's a restore disc?

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I cant install XP first and then Windows 7 as the Samsung r620 does not come with system disks - only system restore disks returning it to where it was when it left the factory.
If this disc merely restores your computer to the original shipping configuration, then you cannot install XP after installing Windows 7. You can, however, install XP first and then install Windows 7. I don't know why you think otherwise. You'll have to reinstall your applications, and you'll have to back up all of your data, but once you restore XP, you just create a new partition (if the one you already created was somehow destroyed) and then install 7.
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09 Nov 2009   #18
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post
Hold on a second. Earlier you said you had an original XP disc, but now you state it's a restore disc?

Quote:
I cant install XP first and then Windows 7 as the Samsung r620 does not come with system disks - only system restore disks returning it to where it was when it left the factory.
If this disc merely restores your computer to the original shipping configuration, then you cannot install XP after installing Windows 7. You can, however, install XP first and then install Windows 7. I don't know why you think otherwise. You'll have to reinstall your applications, and you'll have to back up all of your data, but once you restore XP, you just create a new partition (if the one you already created was somehow destroyed) and then install 7.


Once you restore XP, suggest you boot into Win7 installer to see if it will allow you to use Custom>Advanced tools to create a second partition, format and install Win7.
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10 Nov 2009   #19
auzoloto

Windows 7
 
 

Again thanks for comments.


To clarify the matter:
  • I have original XP disk, Version 2002 - and am trying to install XP on a separate partition on a Samsung R620 laptop supplied with Windows 7 already installed
  • The laptop does not come with original Windows 7 disks - only with system restore disk, which returns the R620 hard drive to the status when shipped including partions etc.
  • If I load XP first I presume running the Windows 7 system restore disks will wipe out the XP install.
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10 Nov 2009   #20
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Ah - now I understand. Your post was a bit confusing, but now I see you have the 7 restore disc and not the XP disc.

Earlier I posted that it's not recommended to format the partition from within 7. Did you do that? If so, delete the partition, then create the partition but do not format it. Try installing XP again.

You may have to slipstream SP3 into your XP disc in order for things to work.
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