Migrating Data to D: and then cloning OS from C: to new SSD

ignatzatsonic · 10 Mar 2015

mackado said:

Samsung Magician reports OS Optimization =Not configured, and mentions to use the OS Optimization menu, Samsung has a performance optimization tab that one can use if your "OS lacks TRIM support for SSD", I used it before, but the setting disappeared after reboots, and apparently I would have to keep Magician running at boot up to apply the settings, I never heard of this OS Optimization menu either, but maybe it was an Win7 utility hidden some where?

Windows 7 does support TRIM for SSD, so maybe the "performance optimization tab" of Magician doesn't offer you a lot? I've never even seen it.

Virtually certain there is no such Windows "optimization" utility. Win 7 knows you have an SSD and acts and adjusts accordingly. You can find all sorts of web pages with voodoo of one type or another. Suit yourself as to their effectiveness.

whs · 10 Mar 2015

mackado said:

whs said:

Use this for backup - it's the best, seriously.

Imaging with free Macrium

And forget SSD optimization. As long as the SSD is aligned, there is nothing to optimize.

Thanks WHS, didn't see this reply until now, I downloaded Macrium before as recommended by you guys here to do an Image of the old HDD that didn't work because of the disc errors, I will try it out for regular back ups and see...I was also recommended Todo Backup..

There are many imaging programs. But if you ask 100 guys here which one they prefer, I think you would get a majority for Macrium.

Another one that has sprung up recently is AOMEI. I myself had problems with it, but other people seem to like it. They have a neat one called OneKey where you need no recovery media. But that's no good if the disk goes south.

jpchint · 10 Mar 2015

If you want to migrate or clone data OS or other data from or to any other drives,use Easeus partition master.....

mackado · 10 Mar 2015

ignatzatsonic said:

mackado said:

Samsung Magician reports OS Optimization =Not configured, and mentions to use the OS Optimization menu, Samsung has a performance optimization tab that one can use if your "OS lacks TRIM support for SSD", I used it before, but the setting disappeared after reboots, and apparently I would have to keep Magician running at boot up to apply the settings, I never heard of this OS Optimization menu either, but maybe it was an Win7 utility hidden some where?

Windows 7 does support TRIM for SSD, so maybe the "performance optimization tab" of Magician doesn't offer you a lot? I've never even seen it.

Virtually certain there is no such Windows "optimization" utility. Win 7 knows you have an SSD and acts and adjusts accordingly. You can find all sorts of web pages with voodoo of one type or another. Suit yourself as to their effectiveness.

Not sure if Samsung Optimization is doing anything else Win7 is not able to do...I'm cleaning up my boot-up programs and was not sure if removing Samsung was going to affect the SSD performance..

here's what the console looks like...

PS:Just checked and it's useful for old WinXP and Vista OS users..

ignatzatsonic · 11 Mar 2015

mackado said:

PS:Just checked and it's useful for old WinXP and Vista OS users..

Yep.

That would coincide with what it says on that screen shot...."if your OS does not provide native TRIM support" or whatever. Win 7 does provide native TRIM support.

So, if you can take the words in the screen shot at face value, it offers you nothing.

gregrocker · 11 Mar 2015

Just a tip: Removing almost anything other than MS from startup will benefit Win7 signifcantly. Clean boot is still thought of as a troubleshooting method but it's actually a best practice IMO. The only thing better than removing Startups is reinstalling the OS without adding anything from the start to startup.

mackado · 11 Mar 2015

ignatzatsonic said:

mackado said:

PS:Just checked and it's useful for old WinXP and Vista OS users..

Yep.

That would coincide with what it says on that screen shot...."if your OS does not provide native TRIM support" or whatever. Win 7 does provide native TRIM support.

So, if you can take the words in the screen shot at face value, it offers you nothing.

I just started to look under the hood of 'Samsung Magician' today, and this 'OS Optimization' was right under my nose...

, even though it claims my SSD is 'not configured" , I'll leave playing with this settings for another day after I clear my head...

ignatzatsonic · 11 Mar 2015

I assume Magician is the method by which you would upgrade the SSD's firmware, do a secure erase, etc. So it's probably needed for some tasks, but I don't know why it would need to be involved in your boot process or be running all the time.

Samsung SSDs have been having some issues across several models recently, so you might eventually be forced to do a firmware upgrade if you experience problems.

mackado · 11 Mar 2015

ignatzatsonic said:

I assume Magician is the method by which you would upgrade the SSD's firmware, do a secure erase, etc. So it's probably needed for some tasks, but I don't know why it would need to be involved in your boot process or be running all the time.

Samsung SSDs have been having some issues across several models recently, so you might eventually be forced to do a firmware upgrade if you experience problems.

I read some comments/reviews that Samsung fixed the firmware issue already for this latest generation of SSDs, don't know if it nneds to stay on Boot either, but it was loaded as a "Service"...

mackado · 11 Mar 2015

After digging into Magician's 'OS optimization' tab, you get to choose from the three optimization choices or create your own under 'Advance' just hit 'Apply' and Magician changes your settings under Win7.

Decided to go with the 'Maximum performance' setup for now, let's see how it goes, I guess I'll keep Magician on the boot-up/services for now, seems to be very useful to keep track of the SSD and change settings on the fly with one click...

Boot today was down to 27.5 seconds...