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Windows 7: Considering buying refurb w/64-bit Windows, but install disk is 32-bit

29 Aug 2015   #11

W7 Pro SP1 64bit

> Still I have to wonder why so many sellers don't give you the physical disk.
If by "sellers" you mean those reselling computers, then it could be that the computer never came with a "physical disk" (a DVD with Windows on it or Windows and bloatware).... so there is no disk to resell. If it did come with a "physical disk", then they might resell that to someone else.

If by "sellers" you mean the OEM, then it is cheaper not to provide a DVD. It is cheaper to provide a recovery partition on the OS drive. Users tend not to lose that partition. Users tend to lose/break DVDs.

As far as infections go: The BIOS could be infected. The firmware on the hard drive controller could be infected. There could be a hidden partition on the drive that is infected. The recovery partition can be infected. The recovery disks that you make can backup infections. Some (many?) infections are not discovered by antivirus products for more than a decade. My point is: you might as well use Macrium Reflect Free to image whatever you get (infections and all).

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29 Aug 2015   #12

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zindar View Post

I'm guessing the advantage of solution 2 is that it eliminates the step of installing drivers, as I guess the whole drive is restored in a fell swoop. But to me a disadvantage of solution 2 is that I worry that if I download Macrium Reflect Free that maybe I'll get a virus. I've downloaded lots of free software from the internet, and had my antivirus bless it and everything, but then I still get a virus. But solution 1 would seem to eliminate that risk.
Another advantage of solution 2 is that your PC would be restored to the state it was in on the day you made the image, say September 5, 2015---whereas the factory recovery partition would only restore you to the date of manufacture, say March 9, 2013. With Macrium, you could make a new image file every month so that a restoration would never be more than a month out of date.

You can download free Macrium directly from Macrium's own site. I've never heard of anyone having virus problems.

You'd have to learn how to make and restore images. It isn't difficult, but the fact is that most users only learn how to make images. They wait to learn now to restore them until AFTER they are in a jam with a failed hard drive, which of course is a bad policy.
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29 Aug 2015   #13

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Thanks for this advice about Macrium; it sounds pretty useful, and since I have have an external hard drive already, plus 2 NAS's (the bigger one containing 4 x 3TB in RAID 5 configuration, giving me 9TB of usable space), I should have plenty of space to store images. I've been backing up my data, but not the OS, much less my whole hard drive. I'll look over Macrium ASAP, and hopefully it won't be too hard to figure out how to use.
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01 Sep 2015   #14

Windows 10 Pro X64

Here is a good tutorial on using Macrium: Imaging with free Macrium
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 Considering buying refurb w/64-bit Windows, but install disk is 32-bit

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