Cloning, Windows 7 became non-genuine, Samsung Data Migration

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  1. Posts : 254
    windows 7 Ultimate Service pack 1 x64
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    Cloning, Windows 7 became non-genuine, Samsung Data Migration


    Ok so i had a little issue a couple days back, ended up solving it but a new one has kinda come up. When i used Samsungs Data Migration, all seemed to be working fine, plug it in for the first time boot it up seems to be going well and then bang! Windows 7 is not genuine, consider activating. Go to activate it and it seems like i cant. Did notice the OEM in the key but i thought that only mattered with big changes like motherboard and CPU not a bloody SSD.

    Any solutions guys? Would like to use the new SSD asap, back on my old intel one for now.
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  2. Posts : 8,137
    Windows 10 64 bit
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    I couldn't get Clone to work on a new Samsung EVO 840 or 850 SSD. I tried the Samsung provided clone, the clone option in Macrium Reflect and another clone program that I downloaded (don't remember the name). We did some testing on clones with a forum "guru". He did some in depth testing and the conclusion was clone was a hit or miss, may work for some and not for others.

    My own case, I wound up doing a Macrium disc "image" (backup) of the entire hard drive (all partitions) and then restored to the SSD. Worked perfectly on both Windows 7 and Windows 8.
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  3. Posts : 254
    windows 7 Ultimate Service pack 1 x64
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    fireberd said:
    I couldn't get Clone to work on a new Samsung EVO 840 or 850 SSD. I tried the Samsung provided clone, the clone option in Macrium Reflect and another clone program that I downloaded (don't remember the name). We did some testing on clones with a forum "guru". He did some in depth testing and the conclusion was clone was a hit or miss, may work for some and not for others.

    My own case, I wound up doing a Macrium disc "image" (backup) of the entire hard drive (all partitions) and then restored to the SSD. Worked perfectly on both Windows 7 and Windows 8.
    So i could use Macrium to migrate to the bigger drive, making sure it takes all the space as well, and then install samsung magic or whatever the looking after tool is right and it should be fine?
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  4. Posts : 2,776
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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    I'm unclear, what does Samsung Magic do? If it is cloning software, if it is migration software, best to remain with making full images via Macrium Reflect.
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  5. Posts : 8,137
    Windows 10 64 bit
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    Samsung "Magician" is just a utility. It shows health of Samsung SSD's. Allows firmware updates to the SSD's and offers to tweak Windows (but don't do it as it screws up things).

    If you "image" your current drive (you must do all partitions, not just the "C" drive partition) to a separate drive, you then "restore" to the new SSD.

    If you "clone" (and it works) a clone will copy everything including bad data blocks, to the new drive and make it the same size as the old drive. With an "image" it copies all the data but not bad blocks of data to a backup and then you restore and it keeps the full size of the new drive.
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  6. Posts : 254
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    fireberd said:
    Samsung "Magician" is just a utility. It shows health of Samsung SSD's. Allows firmware updates to the SSD's and offers to tweak Windows (but don't do it as it screws up things).

    If you "image" your current drive (you must do all partitions, not just the "C" drive partition) to a separate drive, you then "restore" to the new SSD.

    If you "clone" (and it works) a clone will copy everything including bad data blocks, to the new drive and make it the same size as the old drive. With an "image" it copies all the data but not bad blocks of data to a backup and then you restore and it keeps the full size of the new drive.
    Isnt that what macriums intelligent sector copies for? And im sure cloning lets you choose the size when you do the clone... I just finished cloning my 2TB to my 4TB then i had to get a partition manager to turn it into GPT and extend it so it used the rest of the data. It worked thank god, the SSD wont take as long either so i should be able to test it tomorrow. Too late now its nearly midnight here lol. I did create a backup image incase something did go wrong so i guess i could use it...
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  7. Posts : 8,137
    Windows 10 64 bit
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    That is the hard way. If you image the entire drive (all partitions) to a separate drive. Then "restore" that image to the new drive, it does everything at one time. You don't have to go back and partition it or whatever.
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  8. Posts : 254
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    fireberd said:
    That is the hard way. If you image the entire drive (all partitions) to a separate drive. Then "restore" that image to the new drive, it does everything at one time. You don't have to go back and partition it or whatever.
    Couldnt really make an image of the 2tb as it was 2tb and i didnt have an external :P

    But for the ssd it would just automatically add the extra unallocated space to the partition?
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  9. Posts : 8,137
    Windows 10 64 bit
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    When you image you don't copy the entire drive, like clone, you only copy the actual data. For example, if you have 1TB hard drive with 250GB of data on it, you only copy the 250GB of data. When you restore to the new drive, say a 1TB SSD, the 250GB of data is copied to the drive and the remaining 750GB is "free" space, just like it was on the 1TB hard drive.
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  10. Posts : 2,776
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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    I'd rather make individual full images of System Reserved, factory restore, OS [commonly called "C drive"], data [commonly called "D drive"] partitions rather than one long full image. Later on, when you need to restore "c drive" - the OS partition, you are not touching or rolling back any changed material in the Data partition.
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