Want to do clean install of W7 Ultimate and W10 on my Gateway PC


  1. Posts : 81
    Windows 10 Home C1H1
       #1

    Want to do clean install of W7 Ultimate and W10 on my Gateway PC


    Background

    I purchased a 64-bit Gateway DX4831 Desktop (specifications below) with Windows 7 Home Premium six or seven years ago.

    Three circumstances arose at about the same time:

    1. From the moment I subscribed for Dropbox's cloud storage, I have been plagued by minor inconveniences and a repeated need for information on the functionality, reliance and speed of data transfer and storage to where I have so many minor complaints and unanswered and unasked questions that I decided I must find (a) another more reliable cloud storage provider for easy access to my files, and (b) a more secure place to keep a second copy of my family's pictures, videos, tax and business documents, etcetera. (Only my need for secure storage relates to this post. Lambasting Dropbox was included because quite simply, they deserve it!)
    2. My seven-year old PC was operating incredibly slow. (It was taking four-five seconds for a Windows Explorer pop-up menu to become visible after clicking on it and I found myself typing five or more words, not letters, ahead of the PC's ability to display them on the screen.)
    3. My OE hard drive was spinning non-stop and rattling and grinding all the time.

    After performing some GRAS maintenance and some maintenance techniques I learned from this forum, the PC speed and responsiveness have improved dramatically, the hard drive spins like it had been before I began experiencing problems and does not rattle and grind.

    As a result, I am planning to install 2 1-TB hard drives (specs below) in order to:

    • Provide a safe repository for my family's electronic memories and mission critical documents in addition to having them readily available at any cloud storage provider other than Dropbox,
    • Minimize reliance on my seven-year old hard drive about which I am now leary, and
    • Allow me to run both Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 10 on my machine.


    My Request

    While I was able to find the SevenForums tutorials on performing a clean install, I was not able to find any advice on running W7 and W10 on one machine and if advisable, tutorials on how to do it.

    If someone could point me in the direction of some tutorials or tutorial-like information or provide me with some instructions or assistance, I would be indebted to you.

    Thanks!

    Joe


    New Hard Drive Specifications
    Capacity: 1TB
    Interface: SATA 6Gb/s
    RPM Class: 7200
    Advanced Format (AF): Yes
    RoHS compliant: Yes
    Cache: 64 MB
    Rotational speed: 7200 RPM Class
    Data transfer rate (max.)
    Buffer to host: 6 Gb/s
    Host to/from drive (sustained): 150 MB/s



    Computer Profile Summary
    Courtesy of Belarc Advisor and Speccy

    Computer
    Gateway DX4831 Desktop

    Operating System
    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
    Installed: 10/10/2015 12:57:09 PM
    Boot Mode: BIOS (Secure Boot not supported)

    Processor
    Intel Core i3 530 @ 2.93GHz 32 °C
    Clarkdale 32nm Technology
    Primary memory cache: 64 kilobyte
    Secondary memory cache: 256 kilobyte
    Tertiary memory cache: 4096 kilobyte
    64-bit ready
    Multi-core (2 total)
    Hyper-threaded (4 total)

    Main Circuit Board
    Board: Gateway H57M01 (CPU 1) 40 °C
    Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
    BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-B1 03/23/2010

    Drives
    881.28 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
    255.79 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [Optical drive]
    Western Digital WDC WD10EADS-22M2B0 (SATA) 42 °C [Hard drive] (1 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD- WCAV56802417, rev 01.00A01, SMART Status: Healthy

    Two 1-TB Western Digital Hard Drives (Model: WD10EZEX) with the following specifications will be installed prior to clean OS installation:

    Memory Modules
    6 GB Usable Installed Memory
    Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz (9-9-9-24)
    Slot 'DIMM0' has 2048 MB
    Slot 'DIMM1' has 1024 MB
    Slot 'DIMM2' has 2048 MB
    Slot 'DIMM3' has 1024 MB

    Local Drive Volumes
    c: (NTFS on drive 0); 881.28 GB; 255.79 GB free

    Network Drives
    None detected

    Controllers
    Intel(R) PCH SATA AHCI Controller

    Display
    Intel HD Graphics [Display adapter]
    HX2000 (1600x900@59Hz) [Monitor] (19.9"vis, s/n C180C0114009, February 2010)

    Miultimedia
    Intel Display Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

    Bus Adapters
    JMicron JMB36X Controller
    Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B34
    Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B3C
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  2. Posts : 7,351
    Windows 7 HP 64
       #2

    This is what I would do:
    - Buy a SSD. You have no idea what a SSD can do for your computer. Boots 6x faster and opens programs at a blink of an eye.

    As you have a desktop you don't need a big SSD.
    Mine is 120G and has Win7 and Lubuntu. I have this SSD and it cost only US$ 50 PNY CS1311 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSD7CS1311-120-RB-Newegg.com
    The trick is to move \Users to the HDD. And it works perfect.

    1)
    Let's say that your favorite Windows is Win 7.
    - Disconnect all other disks from MB leaving only the SSD.
    - Do a clean Win7 install. Clean Install Windows 7
    - Connect one new 1T disk and move \Users to it. Download the needed files https://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...d-relocate.zip
    - Connect the actual disk and copy all your data to the new 1T disk (D:)

    2)
    - Disconnect all other disks from MB leaving only the actual disk.
    - Do a clean Win10 install, deleting all partitions - Windows 10 - Clean Install - Windows 10 Tutorials.

    Use this SATA order:
    SATA 0 - SSD (win7)
    SATA 1 - actual HDD (win10)
    SATA 2 - Win7 data disk
    SATA 3 - second data disk

    To choose from what disk you want to boot from use the boot menu (F12?)
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  3. Posts : 81
    Windows 10 Home C1H1
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks!

    Sounds like a great plan!

    Joe
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  4. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #4

    Hi,
    Make sure you disable fast start in win-10 or you might have fun dual booting win-7
    Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Tutorials

    Personally I would use one of these to dual boot and keep win-10 or linux away from any other os
    Amazon.com: Vantec 2.5-Inch Dual Bay Trayless SATA III - 6G Mobile Rack (MRK-225S6-BK): Computers & Accessories

    When it comes to updating win-7 review post #2 here on either of these threads
    Clean install
    windows update

    Or the older way
    Windows Update will not update and I've tried multiple fixes
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  5. Posts : 81
    Windows 10 Home C1H1
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Thank you very much!

    I will let you know how it goes.

    Joe
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