Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Building a Win 7 machine 'today'

05 Oct 2017   #1
GRoston

Windows 7 x64 Pro
 
 
Building a Win 7 machine 'today'

I seem to recall having read something to the effect that MS had limited the ability of a clean Win 7 installation to be updated (in order to force people to Win 10). Is this true or not? My notebook was 'built' six years ago, and as painful as it is, I think I need to start afresh...


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
05 Oct 2017   #2
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It's partially true. Some time ago Microsoft issued a malicious patch though Windows update to arbitrarily block updates on the latest hardware (specifically, the KB4012218 update). Once this is installed, Windows will simply refuse to download/install new updates without any reason. However, not having it installed avoids this limitation.
This is the official MS statement about the malware patch

Note that this update is almost certainly included in every posterior "montly rollup" so it's not simply to avoid it. Fortunately the community already reacted and issued another patch to fix the flaw and continue receiving updates normally. Having it installed restores the ability to use Windows Update.

Other than for this annoyance, Windows works normally on every processor out there, as long as you use the proper drivers. That sabotage attempt only happens when using the latest CPU families (Intel Kaby Lake or AMD Ryzen).

In short, it's totally possible to still have a sane Win7 experience, but you either:
- Avoid the malicious KB4012218 "update" and all posterior rollups.
- Install the update and also the patch to fix it (possibly after each successive update afterwards).
- Accept the MS sabotage and live without latter patches.
- Don't do updates altogether.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Oct 2017   #3
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

As Alejandro has mentioned, M$ is pushing hard to the Win 10.
To be able to install win 7 on a new machine:
- On BIOS, it must be possible to turn off Secure boot.
- You must add some drivers (USB 3.x, SATA, M.2 NVMe) to Win 7 installation disk. Create a Windows 7 USB flash installation with new drives for new MB's - Windows 7 Help Forums
- With a Kabylake CPU, If you're going to use the internal graphics, you must do a workaround to install the drivers Fix for Windows 7 drivers for Intel 7th gen HD graphics 620 610 615 630 Iris 640 650 - YouTube
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

07 Oct 2017   #4
GRoston

Windows 7 x64 Pro
 
 

Alejandro85, Megahertz07,

Thank you both - these are great, informative replies.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
31 Dec 2017   #5
GRoston

Windows 7 x64 Pro
 
 

Megahertz07: I found this site, Noticias - ISO Media Installation for Windows 7 SP1 x64 English/Spanish June 2016 Slipstreamed with NVMe, USB 3.0 y 3.1, Thunderbolt support and all updates until June 2016, which seems to provide an image with all of the hard work (detailed in the page you linked) already done. The new machine will be here late next week - we'll see how it all goes.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
31 Dec 2017   #6
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

It seems good. I just don't trust it. If you intent to use it, scan for virus and malwares.

Before you try to install win 7 on the new machine, make a full disk image on an external drive. Use Macrium Reflect Free Edition https://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v7/ReflectDLHF.exe

What new machine did you bought?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
31 Dec 2017   #7
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GRoston View Post
Megahertz07: I found this site, Noticias - ISO Media Installation for Windows 7 SP1 x64 English/Spanish June 2016 Slipstreamed with NVMe, USB 3.0 y 3.1, Thunderbolt support and all updates until June 2016, which seems to provide an image with all of the hard work (detailed in the page you linked) already done. The new machine will be here late next week - we'll see how it all goes.
Please let us know how that works out!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
31 Dec 2017   #8
GRoston

Windows 7 x64 Pro
 
 

Megahertz07 - the Noticias site was recommended by others and I did scan the file. This Specification for GP72MX Leopard (Pro) | Laptops - The best gaming laptop provider | MSI USA is the computer I wound up purchasing. Everything about it seems great, except the weight - it is a full 1.5 pounds heavier than the six year old 17" notebook it is replacing. For some odd reason, notebooks seem to be trending heavier...
My System SpecsSystem Spec
31 Dec 2017   #9
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

As the laptop has a SSD and a HDD and you're going to do a fresh win 7 install, i suggest you move C:\Users to D:/Users. Use Kari tutorial. Very easy. All the needed files are here https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...d-relocate.zip

M$ installs an update that prevents Updates on Kabylake.
So set WU to Manual on services and Never check on WU page.
For Windows I only install the Security only updates.
I manually run WU to look for office updates.

Disable Windows updates and use the offline updates MS releases SP2 for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums
My System SpecsSystem Spec
31 Dec 2017   #10
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Building a Win 7 machine 'today'




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Who's built or building a Windows 8 machine?
The reason I post this question here is since most of us are high end system builders, modders, and overclockers, Id like see how many of you have or are building a high end Windows 8 machine. I'm not going to argue the merits of whether the OS is good or bad. I'm sure many have their minds...
PC Custom Builds and Overclocking
Building new machine
Hello everyone! After opening a lot of threads to different forums and after researcing my bsod problems i think it is time to start searching for a new machine. I am thinking of keeping all my parts and replace only my processor and my m/b. I mainly want to play games, especially BF3, and some...
Hardware & Devices
Building My own mean machine. ;)
Hey Guys How are you all doing? So, This is my first time building my own PC. I have researched all over the internet and decided on some components for my PC. These are: intel i5 2500k motherboard asus sabertooth p67 GPU nvidia gtx 590 or 580 ram will be a cosair 1600mhz 4gb powersupply...
Hardware & Devices
Building a Windows 98 machine
Reading this post here - https://www.sevenforums.com/software/122229-windows-3-1-a.html I decided that I wanted to build a Windows 98 machine. I certainly have to hardware to do so. The issue is getting the hardware and drivers to work with 98. System specs are.... Abit BE6 II, ver 1.0...
Software
Building a machine for my family, looking for advice or ideas.
My family saw my computer that I built and got jealous. Now they have hired me to build one for them. My little brother likes to game on WOW, and some other modern games. Nothing super intense liky crysis, but I imagine he would like to play starcraft 2 at some point and some of the other newer...
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:00.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App