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Windows 7: Installiation trouble with Win-7 Home Premium 64 bit

01 Nov 2017   #1
john1955

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit. 64bit and XP
 
 
Installiation trouble with Win-7 Home Premium 64 bit

Lets see if I can clearly state my issue . . . My computer is a home build Gigabyte GA-Z77-HD3 with 8GB ram and I have FOUR hard drives. I had three HDs but just bought a new one. One drive is a WD 1TB 7200 rpm drive I use for backups and storage.

I have Win-XP on a Samsung 150 EVO SSD
I have Win-7 32 bit on a Samsung 250 EVO SSD.

I had them set up to not use a boot manager because I want to just be able to hit F12 for the Bios boot menu and it's been working great for over a year.

I just bought a Samsung 850 Pro 256GB to install and test Win-7 64 bit. My plan is - if, after a few months of testing, all my programs I need work on it, then I will use the 64 bit as my primary OS and activate it and quit using Win-7 32 because I don’t want to buy another license (but I digress)

When I tried to install the 64 bit on the new drive it gave me an error message that it could not install it on the MBR partition so I tried it again and got the same message but then I just clicked OK and it continued the installation but when it was done I had a boot manager screen every time I restarted. I found no solution on line so I went into MSConfig and deleted the second drive (64 bit) from boot manager. Then I unplugged the XP and Win-7 32 bit drives from the Mother Board and started over. I still got the error message "cant install on MBR" (paraphrased) so I just selected "delete" from the setup screen wich deleted that MBR and it set itself up with three partitions (going by memory here) but it only shows up as two partitions in Disk Management with the first one being EFI System.

So now the part that bugs me . . . When I go into the BIOS, the three Samsung drives do not show up at all so I cannot set the boot order but I now have a "boot manager" listed and my WD and my two CD's are listed.


So the BIG QUESTION is . . . Is there a way I can get rid of the boot manager? Where is it? Only the "current" OS (default OS) is listed in the Boot Tab of MSConfig in Win-7 32 bit which is what I'm using as my primary operating system still since I haven’t installed any programs on x64 yet.

And do I HAVE to have that EFI System Partition with Win-7 64 bit? (is that another thread?)


I know you guys on Seven Forums are great. I've never not gotten good advice here even though I cam to Windows 7 way late in the game making almost all the threads old and inactive. :0)

Thanks in advance

Edit: When I do hit F12 for the BIOS's boot menu and I select the Boot Manager I then get a screen that states something to the effect that it did not boot correctly and when I make a selection it then gives me the message "Reboot and select Proper Boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device . . ."

Edit: Now one of the Samsung SSD is showing up in the Bios. I'm not making any changes so I don't know why the Bios is changing but the other two SSD's are still missing and the WD is missing from this screen but they are all listed when I hit F12 for the boot options after the motherboard posts (beeps)

The Boot Options image is from Bios Setup.





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01 Nov 2017   #2
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Can you post a screenshot of disk management window?
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01 Nov 2017   #3
john1955

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit. 64bit and XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Can you post a screenshot of disk management window?
Yes, I added them to my original post above ^
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01 Nov 2017   #4
john1955

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit. 64bit and XP
 
 

I guess I don't have a stable install yet. If I select the Boot Manager From the F12 Boot Menu it wont boot into anything. It says "reboot and select a proper boot device or insert a boot media in selected boot device . . ."

I again disconnected the Win7 and XP drives and tried to boot but got the same message so I inserted the Win7 64 bit disk and tried to run "repair" but got the message: "This version of System Recovery Options is nor compatible with the version of windows you are trying to repair".

If I try and reinstall I get the following screen . . .

I'm tempted to delete all three partitions and start over but should I delete them here or with Easeus Partion Magic or some other method. I'd rather not have these THREE partitions.


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01 Nov 2017   #5
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Basic Rule: When installing a OS on a disk, ALWAYS detach ALL other disks (detach SATA or power cable)

As you already have Win 7 64 on disk 1, try this:
- Detach ALL other disks (detach SATA or power cable) leaving on only disk 1 (Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD) and the ODD drive.
- Boot from the Win 7 installation disk as UEFI, go to repair - Do a boot repair.
- It will create EFI boot loader that will take you to the Win 7 64.

The Win 7 installation disk can be booted as Legacy or UEFI (two options on boot menu). Look at your picture of boot menu:
- fist (SATA PM Asus..) is legacy mode
- 4th (UEFI: Asus...) is UEFI mode

You have:
Disk 0 (win 32) is MBR - Legacy
Disk 1 (win 64) is UEFI - GPT
Disk 2 (win XP) is MBR - Legacy
Disk 3 (Backup) is MBR - Legacy
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01 Nov 2017   #6
john1955

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit. 64bit and XP
 
 

Thanks, I tried that very thing while I was waiting and I got the message: "This version of System Recovery Options is not compatible with the version of Windows you are trying to repair..." I read on a Microsoft Help page that it would work if I disabled all other drives but I did disconnect them (except the DVD) and still got the message.

Do you think there are any other options other than completely starting over from a clean disk? How should I wipe this disk if that's what I need to do. There's more than one way to skin a cat . . . I mean wipe a disk :)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Basic Rule: When installing a OS on a disk, ALWAYS detach ALL other disks (detach SATA or power cable)

As you already have Win 7 64 on disk 1, try this:
- Detach ALL other disks (detach SATA or power cable) leaving on only disk 1 (Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD) and the ODD drive.
- Boot from the Win 7 installation disk as UEFI, go to repair - Do a boot repair.
- It will create EFI boot loader that will take you to the Win 7 64.

The Win 7 installation disk can be booted as Legacy or UEFI (two options on boot menu). Look at your picture of boot menu:
- fist (SATA PM Asus..) is legacy mode
- 4th (UEFI: Asus...) is UEFI mode

You have:
Disk 0 (win 32) is MBR - Legacy
Disk 1 (win 64) is UEFI - GPT
Disk 2 (win XP) is MBR - Legacy
Disk 3 (Backup) is MBR - Legacy
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01 Nov 2017   #7
john1955

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit. 64bit and XP
 
 

One more question . . .

what do you mean by Boot from the Win 7 installation disk as UEFI, go to repair - Do a boot repair.

I don't know what the "as UEFI" means.
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01 Nov 2017   #8
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

The Win 7 installation disk can be booted as Legacy or UEFI (two options on boot menu). Look at your picture of boot menu:
- fist (SATA PM Asus..) is legacy mode
- 4th (UEFI: Asus...) is UEFI mode
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01 Nov 2017   #9
john1955

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit. 64bit and XP
 
 

I have TWO Asus DVD drives. I was wondering how one of them got changed to UEFI. I'll try it from the other drive and see if that works . . . be right back . . .

If that does not work I was wondering if I should delete the two top partitions of that drive and then run Repair.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
The Win 7 installation disk can be booted as Legacy or UEFI (two options on boot menu). Look at your picture of boot menu:
- fist (SATA PM Asus..) is legacy mode
- 4th (UEFI: Asus...) is UEFI mode
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01 Nov 2017   #10
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

It isn't the ODD drive that has a UEFI option. Is the disk in it.
Put the Win 7 installation disk in any of them and select UEFI from the boot menu.

If you delete the two top partitions on the drive it will be un boot able. As explained, disk one isn't MBR - Legacy. It is UEFI - GPT.
And UEFI - GPT needs the UEFI partition as it has the boot loader.
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