Reinstall Win7 what updates to avoid for telemetry & winX preparation?

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  1. Posts : 6,021
    Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
       #91

    Hi Sevenfox,

    Sevenfox said:
    Well it turns out my Win 7 disc IS SP1 and I simply cannot get repair functions to do anything of use. Looks like a full format is unavoidable.
    [1] Does you computer boot into Windows?
    [2] Are you saying that you tried to run a Repair Install from the disk and it didn't work?
    [3] Is the Win SP1 disk the correct bit-type?
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  2. Posts : 16,155
    7 X64
       #92

    If it is a software issue, you can probably restore the entire operating system from a shadow copy. I have done it several times.

    You can use my boot media.
    17514x86.iso
    17514x64-v11.iso

    Boot it up. It has a desktop.

    1. Run ShadowCopyView (shortcut is on the desktop). That is to check if you have shadows on your windows partition.

    2. Make a folder on your windows partition call it e.g. Windows.old

    3. MOVE the following from your windows partition into the Windows.old folder:

    Program Files
    Program Files (x86)
    ProgramData
    Users
    Windows


    4. COPY the following from your shadow copy to your windows partition -one at a time because they are large

    Program Files
    Program Files (x86)
    ProgramData
    Users
    Windows


    They are big so it might take a while.


    With luck you will be able to boot straight into your reconstituted windows partition.


    Sevenfox said:
    Well it turns out my Win 7 disc IS SP1 and I simply cannot get repair functions to do anything of use. Looks like a full format is unavoidable.
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  3. Posts : 12
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #93

    Paul Black said:
    Hi Sevenfox,

    [1] Does you computer boot into Windows?
    [2] Are you saying that you tried to run a Repair Install from the disk and it didn't work?
    [3] Is the Win SP1 disk the correct bit-type?
    I can boot into windows fine, everything in and of itself works, but I cannot read any USB device, or even any NEW devices period, and no driver replacement/repair/anything will work. I had a new hard drive installed and even it shows up unrecognised in device manager.T


    I appear to have two options with the windows disc, upgrade or custom, I ran the upgrade option and it didn't fix any of my issues, and the custom option will remove all my settings anyway so in this case, it feels like it'd be better to just do a full drive wipe to be sure iIm getting rid of any software gremlins.
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  4. Posts : 6,021
    Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
       #94

    Hi Sevenfox,

    SIW2 said:
    If it is a software issue, you can probably restore the entire operating system from a shadow copy. I have done it several times.

    You can use my boot media.
    17514x86.iso
    17514x64-v11.iso

    Boot it up. It has a desktop.

    1. Run ShadowCopyView (shortcut is on the desktop). That is to check if you have shadows on your windows partition.

    2. Make a folder on your windows partition call it e.g. Windows.old

    3. MOVE the following from your windows partition into the Windows.old folder:

    Program Files
    Program Files (x86)
    ProgramData
    Users
    Windows

    4. COPY the following from your shadow copy to your windows partition -one at a time because they are large

    Program Files
    Program Files (x86)
    ProgramData
    Users
    Windows

    They are big so it might take a while.

    With luck you will be able to boot straight into your reconstituted windows partition.
    How did you get on with SIW2's suggestion above?
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 12
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #95

    I am so sorry it took me so long to reply, life has been getting in the way.

    Right after I last commented I realised that the upgrade install from within windows itself was working, so I gave it a shot and it did infact fix my broken USBs... however it completely and utterly broke everything else, to the point I wasn't even able to uninstall/reinstall much of the corrupted software (including antivirus and video driver).

    So I bit the bullet and formatted, reinstalling Windows from scratch. In the end I decided to go with the the Simplix updater and it all seems to have worked out rather smoothly. It has been a real pain re-configuring everything, and then redoing the configs that I forgot to backup or take notes on, but everything seems to be going well right now. All up to date, no performance issues.

    I think I'll give Dism a try on my laptop though.

    Paul Black, SIW2, Thank you both so much, your help has been invaluable, you guys really took the stress out of a situation for me at a time when I really needed to avoid it.
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  6. Posts : 6,021
    Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
       #96

    Hi Sevenfox,

    Sevenfox said:
    Paul Black, SIW2, Thank you both so much, your help has been invaluable, you guys really took the stress out of a situation for me at a time when I really needed to avoid it.
    You're welcome!

    NOTE: The light blue text below are links to the relevant websites and programs, just click them!

    SUGGESTION: Now that you have your OS updated and running the way you like it, create a system image. This way, if things go wrong in the future, you will be able to restore your OS back to the exact same state that it was when the system image was made in a very short time. There are two imaging programs which are very popular among members here, the first is AOMEI Backupper Standard [FREE], and the second is Macrium Reflect [FREE].

    I hope this helps!
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  7. Posts : 12
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #97

    Paul Black said:
    Hi Sevenfox,



    You're welcome!

    SUGGESTION: Now you have your OS updated and running the way you like it, create a system image. This way, if things go wrong in the future, you will be able to restore your OS back to the exact same state that it was when the system image was made in a very short time. There are two imaging programs which are very popular among members here, the first is AOMEI Backupper Standard [FREE], and the second is Macrium Reflect [FREE].

    I hope this helps!
    Good call, I'll get right on that. Thanks again.
      My Computer


  8. Posts : 6,021
    Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
       #98

    Hi Sevenfox,

    Sevenfox said:
    Good call, I'll get right on that. Thanks again.
    Were you successful in creating a System Image?
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  9. Posts : 286
    Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
    Thread Starter
       #99

    Hi to you all again :-)


    I'm reviving my thread with some new security only update questions.
    This question applies to both win7 and win8. I started a thread in win8 forum but it's not the same activity over there.

    Win7 EOL is here and i'm forced to use win8.1 on two of my computers, to by myself three more years, when I boycott win10spyware.

    My win7 computers aren't updated since december 2017 and i need to install some of the updates but to avoid spectre/meltdown updates...... Or have they resolved the cpu performance loss? and all other trouble it caused older computers?
    The same goes for my win8.1 computers, same hardware with triple boot.

    .
    so i wonder if this is right, or have I missed something?
    .

    --------------------------Windows 7 --------------------------

    Jan 2018 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4056897 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Feb 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4074587 Safe?
    Mar 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4088878 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Apr 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4093108 Safe?
    May 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4103712 Safe?
    Jun 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4284867 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Jul 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4338823 Safe or it is contains spectre code?
    Aug 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4343899 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Sep 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4457145 Safe?
    Oct 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4462915 Safe?
    Nov 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4467106 Safe?
    Dec 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4471328 Safe?

    Jan 2019 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...2008-kb4480960 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Feb 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4486564 Safe?
    Mar 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4489885 Safe?
    Apr 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4493448 spectre and/or meltdown?
    May 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4499175 Safe or it is contains spectre code?
    Jun 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4503269 Safe?
    Jul 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4507456 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Aug 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4512486 Safe?
    Sep 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4516033 Safe or it is contains spectre code?
    Oct 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4520003 Safe?
    Nov 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4525233 Safe or not?
    Dec 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4530692 Safe?

    Jan 2020 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4534314 Safe?



    ------------------------- Windows 8.1 ------------------------

    Jan 2018 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4056898 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Feb 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ate-kb-4074597 Safe?
    Mar 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4088879 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Apr 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4093115 Safe?
    May 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4103715 Safe?
    Jun 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4284878 Safe?
    Jul 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4338824 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Aug 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4343888 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Sep 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4457143 Safe?
    Oct 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4462941 Safe?
    Nov 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4467697 Safe or it is contains spectre code?
    Dec 18 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4471322 Safe?

    Jan 2019 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4480964 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Feb 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4487028 Safe?
    Mar 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4489883 Safe?
    Apr 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4493467 spectre and/or meltdown?
    May 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4499165 Safe or it is contains spectre code?
    Jun 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4503290 Safe?
    Jul 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4507457 spectre and/or meltdown?
    Aug 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4512489 Safe or not do to: When attempting to print from a 32-bit app on a 64-bit operating system (OS), you may receive an error, or the application may stop responding or close.........This issue is resolved in KB4525250. However, the issue occurs when you install only KB4512489 (released on August 13, 2019) without installing KB4507457, the previous Security Only update (released July 9, 2019). KB4507457 is a spectre and/or meltdown update i want to avoid
    Sep 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-8-1-kb4516064 Safe or it is contains spectre code?
    Oct 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-8-1-kb4519990 Safe?
    Nov 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-8-1-kb4525250 Safe or not?
    Dec 19 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-8-1-kb4530730 Safe?
    Jan 2020 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-8-1-kb4534309 Safe?
    Feb 20 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-8-1-kb4537803 Safe?


    It seems that each and every one contains Spectre or meltdown code.
    Is there any other things about this updates above that you have had trouble with?
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  10. Posts : 7,351
    Windows 7 HP 64
       #100

    Hi Marie,
    Attached is a cmd file to uninstall the telemetry KB.

    If you want to update your Win 7 computer, use Simplix
    My suggestion is to set Services - Windows Update - Manual and on WU page set it to Never check.
    Then run UpdatePack7R2
    Simplix is a single file (850MB) that contain all updates since Win 7 released up to date. It has all security and non security updates without the trash (telemetry and tracking). Very good.
    Then run WU manually to find updates for Office etc and decide witch one to install.
    Reinstall Win7 what updates to avoid for telemetry & winX preparation? Attached Files
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