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Windows 7: Reinstall Win7 what updates to avoid for telemetry & winX preparation?

09 Jun 2019   #71
FastTurtle

Win10 Pro
 
 

Much better to avoid the updates instead of working around the issue after a clean install. Got the numbers or are you going to be like everyone else on the net and not share that information?


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09 Jun 2019   #72
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

what if they all do ?

KB4012218 and KB4012219 were at the start of the policy change.
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11 Jun 2019   #73
Sevenfox

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks to a seemingly unfixable software issue with my USB drivers I am about to be forced to reinstall my copy of Win 7, but after reading through this thread I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, to much information and too many options... I have no idea what to proceed with.

I was originally considering using an ISO from 2015 with pre-telemetry updates included instead of my original disc, but I am also concerned about not being able to fix another problem I have, which is a complete inability to update my video driver past Catalyst 14.8... Every post 14.8 driver will periodically cause my system to hard lock to a black screen. I wonder if more recent windows updates might help in fixing some incompatibility there?

What I truly want is to update windows as far as I can but avoiding all verified telemetry and windows 10 bloat updates as well as any patches for spectre/meltdown. I'm not very confident about tinkering with this stuff, can anyone please advise the most painless route?
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11 Jun 2019   #74
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Simplix

Install from the standard Ms win7 SP1 iso.

Then run the updatepack. Click install. Go to lunch.

Reinstall Win7 what updates to avoid for telemetry & winX preparation?-simplix-ui.jpg

It does it all automatically, it will reboot a couple of times and cleans up when finished. When you get back from lunch it is all done. No telemetry. No processor checks. It also installs the correct usb3 drivers.


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11 Jun 2019   #75
Paul Black

Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
 
 

Hi Sevenfox,

Welcome to SevenForums!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sevenfox View Post
[Q1] Thanks to a seemingly unfixable software issue with my USB drivers I am about to be forced to reinstall my copy of Win 7, but after reading through this thread I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, to much information and too many options... I have no idea what to proceed with.

[Q2] I was originally considering using an ISO from 2015 with pre-telemetry updates included instead of my original disc, but I am also concerned about not being able to fix another problem I have, which is a complete inability to update my video driver past Catalyst 14.8... Every post 14.8 driver will periodically cause my system to hard lock to a black screen. I wonder if more recent windows updates might help in fixing some incompatibility there?

[Q3] What I truly want is to update windows as far as I can but avoiding all verified telemetry and windows 10 bloat updates as well as any patches for spectre/meltdown. I'm not very confident about tinkering with this stuff, can anyone please advise the most painless route?
[Q1] What exactly is the problem?

[1] Have you installed any new hardware, software or updates prior to this happening?
[2] Have you checked if it is something getting loaded at startup [Start => msconfig => Startup tab] that is causing the problem?
[3] Have you tried running chkdsk - Check Disk?
[4] Have you tried running SFC - System File Checker?
[5] Are there any yellow triangles in Device Manager [Start => Control Panel => Device Manager => Expand ALL nodes]?

[Q2] You could use your oringinal disk [does it include SP1?] and then update your system using DISM++.

[Q3] You can achieve this by running DISM++.

DISM++ - Basic Overview

DISM++ is a FREE implementation tool that has the ability to perform Windows Updates [WU]. Some of the advantages [but not all] are:

[1] The GUI is very easy to understand and use.
[2] It is much faster than M$’s WU because it uses a different engine.
[3] It downloads the latest WU DB from the M$ servers, scans your OS, and then lists the updates available.
[4] It doesn’t install superseded updates like M$ does.
[5] It gives you the option of what you want to install.
[6] The pre-ticked updates are what is recommended and are similar to the WU critical and recommended updates. The un-ticked updates are similar to the WU optional updates.

[7] It warns you if an update:
  • Includes telemetry.
  • Has known issues with certain hardware.
  • Needs exclusive access.
  • Is suspect.
  • Your OS doesn't need it.
  • Has any other known issues.
[8] It doesn’t require re-booting between updates.[9] It can be used to either update an install.wim image OFFLINE, or to update the LIVE OS.

If you decide to use DISM++, then it is best to run the DISM++ Windows updates a couple of times to make sure you get ALL the updates that are needed. DON’T install ANY of the ORANGE updates though [see numbers [6] and [7] above]. It can also install the required .NET Framework updates. Then just run WU to see what other updates are available, if any.

DISM++ - Run Windows Updates On The LIVE OS

NOTE: The light blue text below are links to the relevant websites and programs, just click them!

DISM++ Direct download [zip] => DISM++.

Here is the quick procedure guide:

[1] Download the latest version of DISM++ [see the DISM++ Direct download [zip] link above].
[2] Extract the files using something like 7-Zip here => 7-Zip.
[3] Turn Sleep mode OFF in Power Options [you can turn it back on after you have finished].
[4] Double-click Dism++x86 or Dism++x64 and then click Run.
[5] Click Updates in the left-hand pane and then click Scan [bottom right].
[6] Once the scan has completed, click Install Updates [blue button to the right of Scan].

[7] If any warning pop-ups appear [see item [7] in the Basic Overview above], click Cancel and it will skip that one. There could be several of these appear so click Cancel to all of them.

[8] It is advisable to run the DISM++ WU a couple of times. To do this, just re-boot and Scan again [from number [4] above].

[9] Run M$ WU [Windows Update] to see if there are any other updates available.

I hope this helps!
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11 Jun 2019   #76
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Dism++ just warns you to skip the telemetry stuff. Simplix does the updates with telemetry removed - also takes care of usb3 and processor checks, and requires no user input.

https://update7.simplix.info/UpdatePack7R2.exe
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11 Jun 2019   #77
Paul Black

Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
 
 

Hi SIW2,

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
No processor checks.
Are you saying that it skips the processor checks?
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11 Jun 2019   #78
Sevenfox

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

[QUOTE=Paul Black;3435802]
[Q1] What exactly is the problem?

Hard to pinpoint, against my better judgement I let a friend who claims to be a "pro" at fixing pcs poke around my system via team viewer, he replaced my USB, video and sound drivers, ticked every box in ccleaner and ran it, installed some 'optimization' software from IObit, and promptly stopped him right as he was going to defrag my SSD.

Everything still seemed fine at this point (once I downgraded my now instantly blackscreening video drivers) but I had unplugged all my usual USB drives. I decided to flash my BIOS the next morning (to see if that might help compatibility with my video card) and all went well, so I plugged in an external drive to do some stuff and it wasn't there, in fact my back hub was now refusing to recognize ANY storage device but could still read HIDs. I grabbed the recommended USB drivers from MSI, updated via device manager and suddenly lost ALL my USB HDD support, I kept getting 'driver was unable to be installed correctly' any time I booted up or tried to refresh. I tried updating the chipset drivers too to no avail. Everything HDD just ended up under 'unrecognized devices'. I grabbed a PS2 mouse and keyboard, tried removing ALL USB drivers and then reinstalling but a this point I lost everything except the PS2 keyboard and reinstalling only got me my USB keyboard back.

My PC has just spent a week in a shop (it's still there, using a laptop atm), and they couldn't even get my system to read a mouse at all, and after checking my hardware with their own windows drives, the advice came back as 'your hardware is fine, but software has seriously corrupted somewhere and I can't fix it, you're best off reinstalling windows'.

For the record, I had tried each of the steps you mentioned and no hardware changes have been made since I had this system built nearly 5 years ago, I have simply never been able to upgrade past catalyst 14.8 without getting frequent, random hard locks.

[Q2] You could use your oringinal disk [does it include SP1?] and then update your system using DISM++.

I've had this Win 7 disc for about 5 years, I've never actually needed to run it myself yet and am not sure how up to date it would be. How could I tell the build date of my disc? I'd check but it's in the shop with my PC. Hopefully I can bring it home tomorrow.

[Q3] You can achieve this by running DISM++.

So I would simply let DISM++ scan, then install what it recommends whilst denying any updates it warns me about?

I keep wondering if one of those optional updates has some compatibility fixes for my video card, but it feels like there's no way to know unless I do a blanket update. :/
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11 Jun 2019   #79
Sevenfox

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Simplix

Install from the standard Ms win7 SP1 iso.

Then run the updatepack. Click install. Go to lunch.

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It does it all automatically, it will reboot a couple of times and cleans up when finished. When you get back from lunch it is all done. No telemetry. No processor checks. It also installs the correct usb3 drivers.
This seems unexpectedly convenient, I will have to seriously consider this as well as DISM. Thank you.

Does this skip the spectre/meltdown patches?
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11 Jun 2019   #80
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

paul,

I don't know how Simplix does it. The usual way is to use wufuc, sure I saw it mentioned somewhere - MDL possibly. In any case it is irrelevant for the OP who is using i7 4790K
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