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Windows 7: Win7, Linux Mint and VMWare on same machine ?

2 Days Ago   #11

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
Convert Current W7 Install to VM?

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a) Win7 needs an NFT disk format and an MBR control. Both of these are easily achievable under UEFI "bios" if Secure Boot is disabled and Legacy Boot enabled. Is this an issue at all, do you think ? (I ask because of your comment on MBR)
I can't really comment on this as my hardware only supports MBR.
I've never used UEFI.
Also I always use AMD based hardware, so I can't comment on any Intel idiosyncrasies.

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b) from my experiences with various UNIX/LINUX versions long ago and far away, working drivers for various hardware configs did present problems. Is this still the case, do you think ? I ask this because in the VM setup screens you posted, the network card (eg) is describes as NAT, so I wonder at this ...
When I've installed a Linux Distro, everything has worked out-of-the-box on my PCs, but I generally don't use the latest-and-greatest hardware.
However as many people say "Your Mileage May Vary".

I swapped from Ubuntu 10.04 to Linux Mint in 2013 when I couldn't get my new graphics card to work correctly (I hated Unity so Ubuntu 12.04 was unacceptable).

I chose NAT (Network Address Translation) for the network settings as I hoped it would provide additional protection compared to using the "Bridged" option.

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c) you suggest that a Linux box running Win7 in the VM installation is best. Could you say why, please, as then I wonder about "activation", product keys etc - all the MS paraphenalia.
My reasons are:
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Unless you want to run modern games, I would suggest that you use a Linux Host and a Windows VM:
  • You should be able to avoid W7 driver issues
  • Your Linux Host OS shouldn't be affected by Windows malware
  • LM18.3 uses less resources, so more can be allocated to the Windows VM (e.g. cores & RAM)
Also as @dg1261 posted:
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I'll let others address the Windows activation issues (I personally don't see it as a factor, as you'll need to deal with activation regardless of whether it's on the host or the VM), but in terms of potential exposure to malware, it ultimately would be better to have Windows in the VM.

Your host is always going to be exposed to the internet. Your VM is only exposed when you're running the VM. If you think Windows is going to be the more vulnerable OS, then it's better to have it be the VM, where it will be exposed less often.
You should be able to activate W7 normally even if it is a VM.
However MS wants everyone to move to W10, so they may throw up obstacles.

You could try converting your current Activated W7 install to a VM (via a Macrium Reflect Image).
Convert a Macrium Reflect Image to a VM.

Your PC may struggle as your CPU doesn't have much grunt and your Total RAM is only 4GB.

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2 Days Ago   #12

Windows 7 Pro x64


Thanks for that information. I'd played with the virtual disks of XP in VM's ages ago but didn't keep up with the addition of the Win7 OS.

Very helpful, thank you.
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2 Days Ago   #13

Windows 7 Pro x64


Again, thank you for your thoughtful and detailed reply at #11.

Your comment that MS is pushing people onto Win10 underlies my initial motivation for this topic. Intel has agreed (aquiesced ?) to this in that Intel CPU's higher than G6 (ie. G7, G8 to date) will not install or run Win7 together with various Intel wifi and audio chips. Slowly, as one's hardware breaks down, replacing it will push Win7 out into the cold. That will take a while, though - I ran a backup Win2k/XP notebook installation that took about 15 years to fall off its' twig.

"Converting a Macrium Reflect image to a VM" - wonderful !! I'd dismissed that possibility as being too optimistic, too Pollyanna, to be viable. Yet it's not, it seems. Activation is an issue - MS has required PC manufacturers to encode the Product Key in the BIOS (now UEFI) since Win7, then "activate" it online after installation. If you install a legally purchased Win7 ISO over this, the BIOS encode remains but the new Product Key and online activation are now entered into the Registry. So a Macrium Reflect image restores these Registry settings into the VM and overcomes the activation issue ... I think

So again, very helpful comment. Something to test that may resolve a pointed issue.
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5 Hours Ago   #14

Windows 10

I have windows 10 as host xp, Ubuntu, win 7 and Phoenix OS, as guests ....sometimes I run all at once noe issues
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5 Hours Ago   #15

Windows 7 Pro x64

Which VM are you using ? And, I guess, how much RAM do you have to allocate to each of these ?

Most interesting to me - I'm assuming the Win7 installation is in a VM (if that's wrong, please correct me) with a Win10 host. How did you activate the VM Win7 install ? Lehnerus2000 above has suggested deploying a Win7 Macrium Reflect image into the VM - I have yet to test this but it seems a very likely solution.
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4 Hours Ago   #16

Windows 10

Welllllllll I av vmware workstation..... and yes win 10 is host as it's best for majority of graphics applications cad gaming etc ....licensing mhhhhhh let's just say they are easily has through various means
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 Win7, Linux Mint and VMWare on same machine ?

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