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Windows 7: how to make os option menu appear in a dual boot pc?

01 Jul 2018   #21
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi,
Sir/Madam, @Amina Alomari : I will be back tomorrow evening. Till then 2 tasks :

1. check out for Secure Boot as here : Confirm-SecureBootUEFI
((You need to do it from windows 10. It has to be done from Elevated PowerShell & not cmd prompt!
Open Elevated Windows PowerShell in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
Then type ''Confirm-SecureBootUEFI'' & press Enter [Type Without Quotes ""] ))

2. If you find Secure Boot is available for your motherboard and is enabled, look in 'Boot' Menu and disable it. As you posted : https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...629_235522.jpg

3. I am also looking towards seniors for the last words but i would like to look into somethings, etc.

Thanks & Regards. ...


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02 Jul 2018   #22
Amina Alomari

Windows 7 ultimate 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vineet Garg View Post
Hi,
Sir/Madam, @Amina Alomari : I will be back tomorrow evening. Till then 2 tasks :

1. check out for Secure Boot as here : Confirm-SecureBootUEFI
((You need to do it from windows 10. It has to be done from Elevated PowerShell & not cmd prompt!
Open Elevated Windows PowerShell in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
Then type ''Confirm-SecureBootUEFI'' & press Enter [Type Without Quotes ""] ))

2. If you find Secure Boot is available for your motherboard and is enabled, look in 'Boot' Menu and disable it. As you posted : https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...629_235522.jpg

3. I am also looking towards seniors for the last words but i would like to look into somethings, etc.

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello
I did as you instructed me ..
The result was "true" meaning i have secure boot in my mb.
However when i found it in boot menu, it is actually enabled but i dont have the option to disable it. Its greyed out and unchangeable.

And i am still awaiting your opinion concerning the way to show up boot menu at startup.

Many thanks again.


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03 Jul 2018   #23
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 
First These Two !

Hi,
Sir/Madam,
@Amina Alomari :
1) https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...629_235522.jpg
This is not going to work, Keep both drives always enabled for what we want to achieve & maintain. Need not fear.
2) To disable secure boot refer here carefully.
How to Disable or Enable Secure Boot for ASUS Motherboard
Go to section : Step-by-Step: Take Backup of Existing Keys and Disable Secure Boot, take backup of keys ( you may want to enable secure boot again in future!) and get it done. Boot in windows 10 i.e. "Windows Boot Manager'' ( SATA6G_2: WDC WD 10EZEX 00RKKA0 ) & Run the same command to confirm the 'Secure Boot' status. If done well, go again in the bios AND make sure that the 'Secure Boot' is 'disabled' & 'Platform Key (KY) State' is 'unloaded' for all the 'OS Types'. ( choose all the OS Type one by one in the menu and check the status for the two!) Go again in windows 10, run the same command & check the Secure Boot status again to make sure everything is fine. ( While doing changes in bios, be a little careful )
3. To avoid any problems : back up the files on USB pen drive, quick format it and then use to save keys.

Please Report.

Thank & Regards. ...
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05 Jul 2018   #24
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi,
Sir/Madam,
@Amina Alomari:

1) Done ?

2) Having done that boot into win10 & win7, run 'bcdedit' from elevated command prompt and report the results.

(a) In windows 7: Elevated Command Prompt - Windows 7 Help Forums
[ Go to 'Here's How: > Step 3'. In the cmd prompt window type 'bcdedit' (without quotes ' ') and press 'enter'. To Copy the result :'click the top left small icon ( marked as yellow in the below attached image) > Edit > Select All'. Once selected press 'Ctrl+C' to copy the report, go where you want to paste it and press 'Ctrl+V' ]
how to make os option menu appear in a dual boot pc?-elevated_command_prompt.jpg

(b) In windows 10 : Open Elevated Command Prompt in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
[ option 3. In the cmd prompt window same as in windows 7 ]

Report & let us know.

Thanks & Regards. ...


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05 Jul 2018   #25
Amina Alomari

Windows 7 ultimate 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vineet Garg View Post
Hi,
Sir/Madam,
@Amina Alomari:

1) Done ?

2) Having done that boot into win10 & win7, run 'bcdedit' from elevated command prompt and report the results.

(a) In windows 7: Elevated Command Prompt - Windows 7 Help Forums
[ Go to 'Here's How: > Step 3'. In the cmd prompt window type 'bcdedit' (without quotes ' ') and press 'enter'. To Copy the result :'click the top left small icon ( marked as yellow in the below attached image) > Edit > Select All'. Once selected press 'Ctrl+C' to copy the report, go where you want to paste it and press 'Ctrl+V' ]
Attachment 404419

(b) In windows 10 : Open Elevated Command Prompt in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
[ option 3. In the cmd prompt window same as in windows 7 ]

Report & let us know.

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello again.
Sorry for being late to respond but i was busy at my job.


1.i have successfully disabled secure boot as you instructed me . It worked fine. However i wonder if it has any disadvantage on my pc in the future?


2. I did the bcdedit step and here are the results:
Win7:






Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume7
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {e5525293-7cc0-11e7-81ba-fa6823bef606}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {e5525293-7cc0-11e7-81ba-fa6823bef606}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>




And for win10:
Windows PowerShell
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS C:\Windows\system32> bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {c095c508-776e-11e8-a437-a111ef555d69}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 10
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {c095c50a-776e-11e8-a437-a111ef555d69}
displaymessageoverride Recovery
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {c095c508-776e-11e8-a437-a111ef555d69}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
PS C:\Windows\system32>






I cant thank you enough for your patience with me and i am looking forward to the next step.
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05 Jul 2018   #26
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Here's an article on Neosmart Knowledgebase

Disabling Secure Boot
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07 Jul 2018   #27
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi All,
Greets,
Sir/Madam,

1 @Snick: Sir, Thanks for the link. But i would like to go deeper a little later!

@Amina Alomari: Mam,

2.Please go back to ''BIOS Setup > Boot Menu > expand 'CSM' & get us a snap.

3.It is needed to show file extensions. It should be always helpful! Follow:
Hide or Show File Name Extensions in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION TWO)

4. we need to know your windows edition and system type ( 32/64 bit ) :
See System Information in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION THREE)

Thanks & Regards. ...
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10 Jul 2018   #28
Amina Alomari

Windows 7 ultimate 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vineet Garg View Post
Hi All,
Greets,
Sir/Madam,

1 @Snick: Sir, Thanks for the link. But i would like to go deeper a little later!

@Amina Alomari: Mam,

2.Please go back to ''BIOS Setup > Boot Menu > expand 'CSM' & get us a snap.

3.It is needed to show file extensions. It should be always helpful! Follow:
Hide or Show File Name Extensions in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION TWO)

4. we need to know your windows edition and system type ( 32/64 bit ) :
See System Information in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION THREE)

Thanks & Regards. ...



Hello sir,

1- i turned on file extension viewer. But i dont know if you need something more from it.

2- my win 10 version is 64bit and so is my win 7.

3- the picture you requested is attached.


Thank you for your time.


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10 Jul 2018   #29
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

During POST, Del key launches BIOS options / config.
On a Asus MB, F8 launches the boot menu (without entering BIOS)
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12 Jul 2018   #30
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi All,
Greets,

1.During POST, Del key launches BIOS options / config.
On a Asus MB, F8 launches the boot menu (without entering BIOS)
@Amina Alomari : Mam, Take note of what Sir says. You can launch one time boot menu on your system by pressing F8 repeatedly as soon as you press the power button. We will need it in the near future.

2. And you should remove the letter from either OS when you`re booted into either OS, so they don`t see each other, unless for some reason you want them to
Now i came to understand what Sir AddRAM was saying. just have a look at your disks:

how to make os option menu appear in a dual boot pc?-disk-managementjpg.jpg

Here the red marked partitions are crucial system parts of each OS and they should not be touched from the other OS. Always take care. Never access from other OS for now. We would see whether we can permanently do that.
We can take that into account only after establishing our objective

3. Everything is well in BIOS.

4. Its done if you have enabled showing extensions.

5. We would be working mainly on windows 10 for now. Have & keep a good look on it. Be familiar & attentive with the drive letters assigned to each drive & partition from within windows 10. Even forget windows 7 for a while. Apart from that always follow the instructions.

6. The task would take a few more days. Because i have to take proper cover if something goes wrong so that we can revert back to present status. Whatever happens you will be always able to use windows 7 and revert back windows 10 to the present status.

7.We need to know what is the full edition name of windows 10 ? You are using english version ? We need to download that iso which would be about 4GB. Are you ready ?

Thanks & Regards. ...


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