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Windows 7: Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI

31 Jul 2018   #1
Avitra6

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI

As the title says, I'm stuck on installing Windows 7 Pro on my laptop using UEFI.

I have followed practically all the tutorials I've found on this site, but so far nothing has worked

I have a Clevo P15SM which has the option to boot in either BIOS or UEFI.
It currently has Win 7 Home installed on an MBR SSHD (so booting in BIOS)

I would like to use a 4TB SSD with Windows 7. I have a key for Win 7 Pro.

Oh, also, I'm pretty much a complete novice

I made a supposedly Bootable UEFI USB Flash Drive using Rufus using this tutorial How to Create a Bootable UEFI USB Flash Drive for Installing Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1. I have tried several iso's, the last one of which I downloaded from this tool HeiDoc.net Download Tool as recommended by the tutorial from above, choosing Windows 7 Pro SP1.

Boot mode is set to UEFI. Secure Boot is disabled. Intel Fast Boot is also disabled.

The first error I get when trying to boot from my USB device is: Windows Failed to Start. There's some other info, then:
Quote:
File: \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD
Status: 0xc000000d
Info: An error occurred while attempting to
Unfortunately, the message is not actually centred on my screen so half of it is cut off...

After that I just get spammed with:

Quote:
Reboot and Select proper Boot device
or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key
I have actually managed to install Windows 10 on my laptop on the SSD, but I'd really prefer to have Windows 7*.
From there I was able to go into the USB and double click "Setup" which took me to the Win 7 install screen. I went through all the steps as set out here Windows 7: UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with (not a clean install I know, but it was the closest I got). After all that, my laptop just got stuck at "Starting Windows". The first time this happened (yes I tried multiple times...) I restarted my laptop after a few minutes, and it booted into Windows 10 after telling me there had been some problems starting and did some sort of recovery. The second time I tried installing Win 7 with this method, I left it longer, and when I gave up and restarted, I believe Windows 10 had been wiped. I just wonder if I left it even longer things would eventually install...

If I try and use this iteration of USB while UEFI is disabled, then I go straight to "Reboot and Select Proper Boot device".

I have managed to install Windows 7 Pro using the same USB stick when UEFI is disabled, and the settings in Rufus were set to BIOS etc (but obviously I can't use the full 4TB of my SSD), so I don't think it's the USB stick.

I have tried to boot from a DVD burned with Active@ ISO Burner using various iso's, including the one above, but I just go straight to "Reboot and Select Proper Boot device".

The only things I haven't tried yet are
  • manually creating a bootable USB flash Drive from the second method mentioned in the first tutorial I linked
  • or trying another iso from that HeiDoc.net Download Tool

I am at my wits end. As far as I know, installing Win 7 Pro using a UEFI motherboard on my laptop should be possible, but I'm obviously missing something I've filled in most of the System Spec for these forums, but I can list anything that's missing from that if necessary.

Any help anyone can offer would be so much appreciated

*I actually wouldn't mind installing and using Windows 10. I vastly prefer Windows 7, but the main reason I can't really use Windows 10 is that the GPU I use is actually an upgrade from the original that came with the laptop, and official Nvidia drivers won't detect it. I have to use drivers published by the people who sold me the GPU, and they have only done drivers for Windows 7 and 8 for this GPU... A windows generic driver does get installed, which I believe means the GPU does actually work in a basic manner, but some programs need a driver which is much more up to date than the one provided by Windows 10. Other things my laptop came with also don't have drivers that work with Windows 10 as far as I've played with (such as the built in fingerprint scanner). Not essential, but I'd be sad to lose these things


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31 Jul 2018   #2
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Welcome to the Forum

To make a UEFI boot able USB flash disk is very simple.
- Format the USB flash disk as Fat32
- Copy all win 7 64 installation disk to the USB flash disk.
- Copy the boot folder to /Efi/boot
https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...rting-boot.zip



The USB flash disk will ONLY boot as UEFI as it doesn't have the MBR on it.

To install Win 7 64 as UEFI - GPT you must boot the flash disk as UEFI. Launch boot menu during POST and select the UEFI flash disk
Go to install and delete ALL partitions on the SSD, then create new
It will create 3 partitions
- UEFI - Fat 32 - 100M
- MSR - RAW - 128M
- Big NTFS
Install win 7 Pro 64 on the big NTFS partition
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01 Aug 2018   #3
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Did you succeed to install as UEFI?

For the updates MS releases SP2 for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums
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02 Aug 2018   #4
Avitra6

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks for the replies Megahertz07.

Unfortunately I wasn't able to install as UEFI (I've been trying ever since your post your method plus various other iterations).

One issue I ran into when trying to follow your suggestion was that I don't have a Windows 7 Pro installation disk to copy to the Fat32 formatted USB flash disk. The closest I have is the DVD I burned using the same iso I tried to use with Rufus for the USB stick. I wasn't sure whether it would make a difference, but I tried it anyway, and it didn't work.

I did find out that there is something wrong with my CD/DVD drive, as despite various programs telling me their burning was a success, it turns out they were just taking a long time to make the DVD's useless (they burned something, but my laptop couldn't read anything on them, and couldn't do anything new with them either). I do have an external CD/DVD drive, so I used that to burn the iso to, and using that to try and boot while in UEFI actually got a Windows loading bar, then the Windows Starting screen with the Windows logo swirling around... at which point it got stuck, but that was on par with the closest I've been so far

I actually tried booting from a burned DVD with the boot file copied to where you said for the flash drive, but that didn't work at all.

I think I tried copying the files from my old Windows 7 Home CD that came with my laptop years ago to the USB stick, but obviously it didn't work, else I'd be celebrating and marking this topic as solved. I might try copying that CD again, but at the moment I feel as though I'm living the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different outcome. I'm sure I'm missing something - perhaps some of my hardware just really doesn't like me :/

I apologise for late replies and run on sentences. Trying so many different ways of trying to get this to work for hours on end is frying my brain a bit
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02 Aug 2018   #5
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

On the computer that you have the Win 7 iso file, install 7zip- https://www.7-zip.org/
Open Win 7 iso file with 7zip and extract all files to the USB flash disk. Then add the \efi\boot folder I provided.
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03 Aug 2018   #6
Avitra6

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Didn't work, just went straight to:
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-20180804_002144-min.jpg
(sorry for terrible quality)

The error is with \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD 0xc000000d just like before.

As far as I can tell you advised me to manually create a USB flash drive as set out in the tutorial found here How to Create a Bootable UEFI USB Flash Drive for Installing Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1, but saved me doing steps 9 and 11 ^^

Anyway, it didn't work as shown above :/

I'm wondering if my BIOS is up to date and if that would make a difference?

My current BIOS Version/Date is American Megatrends Inc. 4.5.6, 26/12/2013. There may be updates to this BIOS according to this site unofficial repository for Clevo's bioses and manuals (clevo afaik don't host these files anymore), but I'm not sure if they would help, and I'm a bit nervy about bricking my laptop if this really wouldn't help...

Another site suggested I enable Legacy ROMs, but I couldn't find an option for it when in the BIOS, only the option to enable or disable UEFI... (I haven't checked Advanced Boot Options yet - thought I'd reply here first before restarting my system yet again...). The only interesting option I saw was for Secure Boot Control (which I have no clue about).



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04 Aug 2018   #7
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

I think you have something set wrong in BIOS.
Secure boot (that you mentioned it's off) isn't compatible with win 7. But it isn't only that.
Do you have a CSM (Compatibility Support Module) option?
Do you have a OS (windows or other) option?
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05 Aug 2018   #8
Avitra6

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I just want to say thank you for all your help, I really do appreciate it.

I'm clearly out of my depth

How about if I attach pictures of my BIOS screens and maybe we can work out what settings I need to change? There is one setting that mentions CSM, but when I looked at it I panicked

Main BIOS Tab
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-main-options-min.jpg

Advanced Tab
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-advanced-options-min.jpg

Intel Rapid Start Technology disabled on Advanced Tab
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-intel-rapid-start-options-advanced-options-tab-min.jpg

Boot Options when UEFI Disabled
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-boot-options-when-uefi-disabled-min.jpg

Boot Options when UEFI Enabled
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-boot-options-when-uefi-enabled-min.jpg

Exit Options (UEFI is disabled here, but if it was enabled, just the list under Boot Override would be different - listing the UEFI USB device)
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-exit-options-min.jpg

And now for the interesting options...

Security Options when UEFI Disabled
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-security-options-when-uefi-disabled-min.jpg

Security Options when UEFI Enabled
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-security-options-when-uefi-enabled-2-min.jpg

Description when Secure Boot Control is Enabled (Secure Boot Mode can be Custom or Standard. Key Management doesn't appear with it set to Standard)
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-security-options-when-secure-boot-control-enabled-sbc-description-min.jpg

Key Management Description in Security Options
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-security-options-key-management-description-min.jpg

Key Management Options Description 1
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-key-management-options-1-min.jpg

Key Management Options Description 2
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-key-management-options-2-min.jpg

Key Management Options Description 3
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-key-management-options-3-min.jpg

Key Management Options Description 4 (Set new KEK, Append Var to KEK, Set new DB, Append Var to DB, Set new DBX, Append Var to DBX all have the same description)
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-key-management-options-4-min.jpg

Key Management Options Description 5
Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-key-management-options-5-min.jpg

So when you mentioned CSM, I guess there is some option in the Secure Boot Control and Mode that has something to do with it, but I'm clueless. I'm going to have a look at what CSM is and how to change its settings, but for now I leave this post here.


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05 Aug 2018   #9
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

On post #6, it says that it had a problem on booting. Is it on booting the Win 7 installation flash disk or after / during installing?
BIOS
- Advanced - Enable Power on Boot beeps- (one beep is normal, more beeps = something wrong)
- Boot options- 1st = HDD; 2nd and 3rd = disabled
- Boot options - UEFI = Disabled. On the up left corner it says: If UEFI boot set enable, it's in Windows 8 (or 10) UEFI mode with secure boot. It means it turns on Secure boot if UEFI = enabled. So it must be Disabled
- Save and exit.
- When you hear the beep, launch boot menu (normally a Fx key) and select the UEFI flash disk
Go to install and delete ALL partitions on the SSD, then create new
It will create 3 partitions
- UEFI - Fat 32 - 100M
- MSR - RAW - 128M
- Big NTFS
Install win 7 Pro 64 on the big NTFS partition
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07 Aug 2018   #10
Avitra6

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Ok I'm back.

The image in post #6 happens as soon as I select 'UEFI: USB device' to boot from, with settings UEFI = Enabled.

The power on boot beep, beeps only once every time I restart. Also, if I leave things till after I've heard the beep, usually it's too late, so I have to start pressing the Fn key before then.

With settings set as you suggested - with the UEFI option disabled, I get the following screen as soon as I choose to boot from 'USB device' (note that in my boot options, the USB device does not have UEFI describing it):

Problems Installing Windows 7 with UEFI-20180808_050019-min.jpg

You don't think it has anything to do with the Key Management options (PK, KEK, DB or DBX) do you? Or maybe that my BIOS is out of date and thus has a setting that is making life difficult?


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