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Windows 7: Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)

09 Feb 2019   #1
BizkitBoy

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 
Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)

Hi everyone,

It's been a long time since I've posted here, but last time I did I received very pertinent and helpful answers.
Hoping this will happen once again now, and also maybe help others with the same issue.

So my problem is when I try to install Windows 7 x64 in UEFI mode on my new Asus Prime X399-A motherboard (TR4 socket with Threadripper 1920X CPU installed). Also, this is being installed on an M.2 NVMe SSD from Intel 760p series.

I have made a bootable USB flash drive with Rufus and this is the error I'm getting when trying to boot from it:
Status: 0xc000000d
Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible.

Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)-img_20190203_172935.jpg

I have deactivated Secure Boot under BIOS:

Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)-img_20190208_201808.jpg

Other BIOS settings I've made:

- CSM (Compatibility Support Module) configuration:

Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)-img_20190208_201754.jpg

- Boot Configuration:

Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)-img_20190208_201734.jpg

- Fast Boot has also been disabled

These are the settings used in Rufus to make the bootable USB:

Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)-rufus-settings.png

I have to note that this is an image I made myself by downloading untouched MSDN image of Windows 7 SP1 x64 and slipstreaming Simplix update pack which contains all updates to this moment (Jan 2019).
This will make the install.wim file of 4,66GB which makes it impossible to create the bootable USB under FAT32 file system. So NTFS was the only way to go.

I'm certain that I've done everything correct when creating the Windows image with slipstreamed updates because I also tried creating the bootable USB with MBR partition scheme and installer booted just fine.
By using Asus' EZ Installer tool and slipstreaming USB 3.0 & NVMe hotfix in the installer, Windows 7 was successfully installed with MBR partition scheme, this is how I know the image I made is fine.

But MBR is not what I'm after. I know that in Jan 2020 Microsoft will drop support of Win7 and probably not long after I will start having problems with unsupported software. Plus that if I upgrade to an RTX GPU, I will not have RTX support on Win7. So I know installing Windows 10 is inevitable, I'm just waiting for a more stable version and am not in a rush. I also am not a fan of Win10...

Because I'm after the possibility to have 2 separate Windows' installed (7 & 10) and boot up whichever I require based on my needs, I need to install Win7 with GPT partition scheme and (why not) NTFS file system.

Perhaps others with Asus motherboards have run into the same issue and know a fix for it.
If this has been already discussed, apologies. I did search the threads, but have not found this particular error when trying to install a fresh Windows.

I'm really hopping there's something I missed and there's a workaround for this because I know for a fact Win7 x64 does support UEFI mode.
Since making the bootable USB with the exact same settings for Win10 did launch the installation process, it seems like there might be something missing from the Win7 installation files, I'm just not advanced enough to figure it out.

One more thing I want to point out: I did also try to disable CSM from BIOS and that was a major mistake. My PC refused to boot, only a black screen came up. Then I used a jumper to shortcircuit PINs 1 & 2 in order to reset CMOS as specified in the manual and then my PC wouldn't even power up anymore. I had to repeat the process TWICE with the battery removed in order for it to work.
So disabling CSM is a no go.

I googled all I could and tried my best to figure it out by myself by changing different BIOS settings, but I'm stuck and need input from more advanced users.




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09 Feb 2019   #2
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

To install as UEFI you must boot the Win 7 installation disk as UEFI. The Flash drive must be formatted as Fat32 as UEFI BIOS will look for the boot loader only on a UEFI partition.
Lets assume you're installing Win 7 pro. Did you deleted the other modes (home, HP and ultimate) to make the install.wim smaller than 4G?
There are complicated workaround to format a drive as Fat32 that can handle files bigger than 4G. SIW2 is the one that can help you with those tricks.


My solution:
- Slipstream onto a Win 7 SP1 installation files only the USB 3.0 and M.2 NVMe drivers.
- Format the flash drive as Fat32 and COPY all files of the Win 7 SP1 installation (USB 3.0 and M.2 NVMe drivers added). Add the boot folder under efi folder
https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...rting-boot.zip
Don't need to use Rufus.
- Boot from the flash drive and install.

I know that there is also another way transferring the expanded install.wim to the HDD (Fat32 100M + Big NTFS)
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09 Feb 2019   #3
BizkitBoy

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Actually, I've already tried the above after my initial post with the sole difference that I used Rufus to create the bootable USB.

I used the untouched MSDN image of Windows 7 SP1 x64 which has an install.wim that's less that 4GB, made a bootable USB with GPT partition scheme and FAT32 file system. Same error.

I now tried what you suggested - which is basically the manual way to do it - and used the boot folder you provided. Same error
So it doesn't even care if it's NTFS or FAT32, it just throws the same error.

What I find very interesting is that the error doesn't mention any path above the "Status: 0xc000000d" line, something like "File: ...path..."

Based on what I found here, it looks more like a BIOS problem. Because it's similar to my issue, even though error is not the same.
Trying to install Win10 in UEFI works fine but Win7 doesn't... it sure looks like an Asus BIOS screw over.

I had another idea, but not sure if it's a brilliant one... what if I try to flash the BIOS to the very first version listed on Asus website as being compatible with my mobo?
I know it's risky, but is there really any chance in messing up the mobo itself?
It originally came with version 0807, I flashed it to the latest one which is 0808 and behavior is the same.

Opinions on flashing to first release 0318 from 2017/08/16 ?
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09 Feb 2019   #4
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Don't change your BIOS. Use the last version.

Every BIOS is different. Try this
On the CSM page
- Set Boot device to UEFI only
- Boot from network to disable
- Boot from storage devices to UEFI only
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09 Feb 2019   #5
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

I've downloaded the Bios manual https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...B_20171030.pdf

Asus made a big mess referring Windows 10 as Windows UEFI.

When you installed as Legacy - MBR did you use the USB disk?
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09 Feb 2019   #6
BizkitBoy

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
In the CSM page
- Set Boot device to UEFI only
- Boot from network to disable
- Boot from storage devices to UEFI only
Just tried it now, no change. Same error

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
I've downloaded the Bios manual https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...B_20171030.pdf

Asus made a big mess referring Windows 10 as Windows UEFI.
What does this mean, more specifically?
That they made this BIOS to have only Windows 10 boot under UEFI?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
When you installed as Legacy - MBR did you use the USB disk?
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Yes, I installed as Legacy - MBR using the same USB, but that's after the failure to install as GPT.
Also, did you link the Anandtech article because of section "Potential Install Solution 1.1: Use a Chipset USB 2.0 Port" ?
Worth to try, I guess. Definitely got nothing to lose.
Edit: Just tried booting from all backplane USB ports, no success. My case is connected to one of the USB 2.0 connectors on the mobo and tried its front USB ports, but again same error. Need to try and connect to the other USB 2.0 connector.
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09 Feb 2019   #7
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

What we know:
- The installation disk must be on a flash drive formatted as Fat32 to boot as UEFI.
- If you were able to install as Legacy MBR, the added USB driver is working on the Win PE.

How was the following BIOS settings on the CSM page when you install as Legacy MBR:
- Boot device?
- Boot from storage devices ?

Does the Flash disk has other partitions?
Open disk manager and see if there is any partition marked as Active. If so, set it to inactive.
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10 Feb 2019   #8
BizkitBoy

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
How was the following BIOS settings on the CSM page when you install as Legacy MBR:
- Boot device?
- Boot from storage devices ?
The settings were the same as in the prtscr from my original post:
Boot Device Control = UEFI and Legacy OPROM
Boot from Storage Devices = UEFI driver first

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Does the Flash disk has other partitions?
Open disk manager and see if there is any partition marked as Active. If so, set it to inactive.
No, there is one single partition on the flash drive and it's not marked as Active:

Unable to install Win 7 x64 in UEFI mode on ASUS MoBo (TR4 socket)-diskpart-info-usb-flash-drive.jpg

I have another question: would I have the same issue if I try booting from an optical disc drive with a DVD?
Because you don't specify any partition scheme or file system when creating it.
Or it doesn't make any difference ?


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10 Feb 2019   #9
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

You can give the DVD a chance.
SIW2 Updater can create a iso so you can burn a boot able DVD.
Update your Win 7 installation media.
When running POST, launch the boot menu and choose to boot the DVD as UEFI.
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11 Feb 2019   #10
BizkitBoy

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Tried 2 other things today, both to no success.

I ordered for myself a new flash drive, a Patriot Supersonic Rage XT USB 3.0 as I've read good things about it.
It behaves exactly as the other no name one I used the other days, same error when trying to boot in UEFI with GPT partition format and FAT32 file system.

I bought an Asus DRW-24D5MT Writer and booted from a very old Win7 x64 bootable DVD I had, so old that it doesn't even have SP1 integrated.
Selected boot priority in BIOS to boot in UEFI mode first, a message comes up with "Press any key to boot from CD/DVD..." and nothing happens. Screen just goes black for a second and then it enters BIOS, or just boots from the next boot priority.
The DVD boots fine in Legacy - MBR.
Is there any reason a DVD this old would not boot in UEFI ?
I want to know if I should waste a blank DVD to write a more recent image on it.
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