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Windows 7: New ssd clean install how to clone the rest from old drive?

2 Weeks Ago   #1
moparfan

64 bit windows 7 home
 
 
New ssd clean install how to clone the rest from old drive?

Well my old hard drive had some issues within windows and i can no longer get into windows. Started with a bootmgr missing. Anyhow I ordered a new ssd and would like to put a clean install of windows 7 on it and then if i can clone the rest from my old hard drive. Is this possible and how?

Custom built computer I have the dvd for windows. I have done other clean installs including on this computer but never got to keep all my information from before. I would really like to have my bookmarks, downloaded programs and such this time. Most if not all of my photos and documents are already saved on a external drive.


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2 Weeks Ago   #2
samuria

win 8 32 bit
 
 

Welcome to the forum. A clean install is good way to go as 7 needs extra settings for SSD. Copying from old drive is a different ball game what do you exactly want to copy software in most cases will have to be reinstalled. If the old drive is faulty copying anything can give big problems as it may be corrupted
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2 Weeks Ago   #3
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Depending on if your old drive has bad sectors, etc, it may be possible to access the data your after. This is a very easy and straight forward process.

To access the data on your old drive just buy a SATA to USB adapter sold on Amazon, eBay, Newegg, etc. I use one manufactured by Vantec and I can vouch for them. So what you'll do is plug the SATA part of the cable to your old hard drive, then of course the USB part plugs into your computer. Then just go into My computer wher your drives and what not show up and in there you should see the old external hard drive.

Depending on what browser you use you bookmarks will be in the AppData folder of your computer's user name on that hard drive. So if you have Firefox the bookmarks will be in
Code:
C:\Users\your-username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\jc4z9rtg.default\bookmarkbackups
replace the words "your-username" with yours.

You can find this path on the main drive under users. In the user folder will be your. Have a look at my screenshot here.






Your downloads, etc will be in your username folder.

Keep in mind that you may or may not have to show hidden folders under the Folder Options in the control panel. See my screenshot.



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2 Weeks Ago   #4
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Make sure that after you install Windows you right click the hard drive in My computer and turn off defragging. You never EVER defrag a SSD or any flash-based storage for that matter. They don't need it due to the way they operate and are made. It's not mechanical storage where data can get fragmented.

Something else to consider is to also turn off the indexing service and use Everything.exe to search for files. This program is a very powerful and fast searching tool to find things on your computer. By turning off the indexing service you help save on unnecessary writes to a finite write cycle SSD. Downloads - voidtools
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2 Weeks Ago   #5
moparfan

64 bit windows 7 home
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by samuria View Post
Welcome to the forum. A clean install is good way to go as 7 needs extra settings for SSD. Copying from old drive is a different ball game what do you exactly want to copy software in most cases will have to be reinstalled. If the old drive is faulty copying anything can give big problems as it may be corrupted
What extra settings for the SSD are you talking about? I see F22 stated a couple but I think I may be less informed then i should be converting to SSD. I thought it would just be the same.

Thanks for the welcome!
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2 Weeks Ago   #6
moparfan

64 bit windows 7 home
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by F22 Simpilot View Post
Depending on if your old drive has bad sectors, etc, it may be possible to access the data your after. This is a very easy and straight forward process.

To access the data on your old drive just buy a SATA to USB adapter sold on Amazon, eBay, Newegg, etc. I use one manufactured by Vantec and I can vouch for them. So what you'll do is plug the SATA part of the cable to your old hard drive, then of course the USB part plugs into your computer. Then just go into My computer wher your drives and what not show up and in there you should see the old external hard drive.

Depending on what browser you use you bookmarks will be in the AppData folder of your computer's user name on that hard drive. So if you have Firefox the bookmarks will be in
Code:
C:\Users\your-username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\jc4z9rtg.default\bookmarkbackups
replace the words "your-username" with yours.

You can find this path on the main drive under users. In the user folder will be your. Have a look at my screenshot here.






Your downloads, etc will be in your username folder.

Keep in mind that you may or may not have to show hidden folders under the Folder Options in the control panel. See my screenshot.



Is the SATA cable to usb required or can i do the same thing plugging it into another SATA and power inside the tower? I don't mind buying the cable but if I can do the same thing inside the tower why buy more cables ya know.


Also I use firefox, Chrome, and Rare but explorer as well. I literally had a few hundreds tabs open to. When I need information or parts for a customers vehicle I would just search it in a new tab and when i find it i leave the tab there till the job is done. Plus I leave up a few sites I use everyday.
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2 Weeks Ago   #7
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yes, you can just use the SATA port in the computer. For some reason I was thinking this was a laptop.

As with FireFox, the bookmarks for Chrome are stored in the AppData folder. Read here: Where Are Google Chrome Bookmarks Stored

Internet Explorer favorites are stored in the users folder in your user name folder in a folder called Favorites. See screenshot and look at the top bar there at the path.






Make sure you unplug the SATA or power cable or both from the old hard drive in the computer before you install Windows to the SSD. Not doing so could make Windows 7 install the bootloader on the second hard drive. Plus, you don't want to make the mistake and format the wrong drive on OS installation. Then you'd have to run a recovery software to undo the format which is totally possible and I've done it myself. Just don't have that old hard drive connected when you install Windows to the SSD.

As to SSD settings, there really isn't too many things you need to do. The stuff you read about on SSDs from tech sites like this one pertain to SSD longevity and speed. But to make life simpler just use this program and you'll have everything set in one go. SSD Tweaker - optimize settings for Solid State Drives

That may be too complicated and you don't need all those settings. So you could just read this instead: How to Optimize SSD for Faster Performance (Windows Tweaks)

Don't worry about the other dorkified crap. You just want to make sure the trim command is on. So just read that first part there and follow it to a T.

Again, all this is not really necessary, but the trim command is one you should have on. It may or may not auto engage when Window detects you have an SSD. I'm not sure if it does this automatically in Windows 7 or not, but I'm pretty sure it's done in Windows 10 automatically so in 10 there would be nothing to mess with. This is because when Windows 7 came out SSDs were in their infancy thus Microsoft never added any code to deal with them. So in Windows 10 I'm pretty sure everything is taken care for automatically.
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2 Weeks Ago   #8
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I just realized that atticle just says how to see if trim is on. This one will tell you how to turn trim on if it's off. How to Check if TRIM Is Enabled for Your SSD (and Enable It if It Isn’t)

You should use AHCI mode in BIOS if it's not already on before you install Windows. It's probably already on, but you should check first.

To get into BIOS, while the computer boots up immediately start pressing the delete key. If it's not the delete key then it may be the F2 key. In fact, the quick message that appears on boot up should say what key it is to get into BIOS.

What SSD do you plan on buying?
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2 Weeks Ago   #9
moparfan

64 bit windows 7 home
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by F22 Simpilot View Post
I just realized that atticle just says how to see if trim is on. This one will tell you how to turn trim on if it's off. How to Check if TRIM Is Enabled for Your SSD (and Enable It if It Isnít)

You should use AHCI mode in BIOS if it's not already on before you install Windows. It's probably already on, but you should check first.

To get into BIOS, while the computer boots up immediately start pressing the delete key. If it's not the delete key then it may be the F2 key. In fact, the quick message that appears on boot up should say what key it is to get into BIOS.

What SSD do you plan on buying?
I ordered this one. 1TB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tracking says i will have it Tuesday.

My BIOS I have to use F11. Mother board is a MSI military class 3. It is a totally different BIOS then i ever seen in a factory computer. Which mine i built many years ago. I forgot most of it lol. It has a live BIOS option to where i can get into it while being in windows for over clocking and that. I have never messed with over clocking it tho. Not even the pre set over clock they have. Not sure why I am telling you this it probably does not matter lol.

What might matter I just now remembered I do have some stuff on a 2nd hard drive in this computer. I had used it for a backup and thought i took it out a long time ago being I tried to do a system restore and it said I did not have a backup with the original HDD. After opening the case I do still have that HDD in there. I pulled out a HDD out of a laptop that had vista on it and formatted it then stuck it in this computer loaded windows 7 on it and used that to get into my backup HDD. It does show it is there. So I may be in more luck then i thought here. If i can't get into my original HDD due to corruption I should be able to get the latest from my backup at least. The last backup was Nov 2nd. The HDD from the laptop is only a 140gb and my backup is maxed out which is a 320gb. So i can't do the restore to this laptops HDD being so small. I will have to wait till the SSD gets here.


I am thinking once i get this all fixed I will use the 320GB drive for pics, videos, music, and documents. Then if my original HDD is not messed up use it for windows backup to backup everything on the SSD. I need to see if i can get backup configured to update every day and delete the old backups. Part of why i thought i took it out was it kept filling up right away and wouldn't write over old backups. I think it may of been because it was to small to backup then delete old? Not sure but 1 step at a time. Every time I think i am protected better from data lose I find i need to backup more and more data lol I use to never need my bookmarks and stuff. Now I do.

Thanks for all your help thus far! I appreciate it.
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2 Weeks Ago   #10
moparfan

64 bit windows 7 home
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by F22 Simpilot View Post



As to SSD settings, there really isn't too many things you need to do. The stuff you read about on SSDs from tech sites like this one pertain to SSD longevity and speed. But to make life simpler just use this program and you'll have everything set in one go. SSD Tweaker - optimize settings for Solid State Drives

That may be too complicated and you don't need all those settings. So you could just read this instead: How to Optimize SSD for Faster Performance (Windows Tweaks)

Don't worry about the other dorkified crap. You just want to make sure the trim command is on. So just read that first part there and follow it to a T.

Again, all this is not really necessary, but the trim command is one you should have on. It may or may not auto engage when Window detects you have an SSD. I'm not sure if it does this automatically in Windows 7 or not, but I'm pretty sure it's done in Windows 10 automatically so in 10 there would be nothing to mess with. This is because when Windows 7 came out SSDs were in their infancy thus Microsoft never added any code to deal with them. So in Windows 10 I'm pretty sure everything is taken care for automatically.
To be honest if I am going to tweek things i would rather do them myself then have some program do it for me. This way I learn something so maybe I can fix a issue later or who knows what other reason it may help doing it myself. Obviously most people have issues with computers most of them by now I can handle myself without coming on here begging for help. I hate asking for help. Plus I keep having to find new forums to get any help. I went to a couple of my old forums and asked the same thing with no responses. It seems the people willing to help are diapering. I worry one day forums will be gone. soon I also need to find a forum that will help building a new computer for my repair shop. The last forum that helped build this one is one I am not getting responses on anymore.
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