Advice needed on upgrading to Windows 10 Home.

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  1. Posts : 44
    Windows 7 64bit SP1
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    Advice needed on upgrading to Windows 10 Home.


    With consideration to the problems I am having with Win 7 HP, and after all of the helpful suggestions on my other threads, I am considering upgrading to Win 10 Home on my Dell Inspiron 17 laptop. I am sure that the laptop can handle this upgrade but I have a question or two about doing this.

    I just did a complete backup using the Windows backup utility and I have read that I can install Win 10 and be able to do a restore from Win 7. I would like someone to confirm this if possible.

    I also would like to know if the backup does contain all of my files including all documents, pictures, folders and programs or is it just a system image? The backup used almost 850 gigs of my WD Passport 1T portable drive. At least that is my assessment. Windows Explorer reports that there is 83.6 GB left of 931 GB of the storage space available.

    I know that this copy of Win 7 HP SP1 was installed in 2013 so I figure that now that Microsoft no longer supports Win 7 and I could not download the ISO files that I needed to repair my original Win 7 OS factory installation that it is time to move forward. I'm honestly not looking forward to this as I cannot possibly imagine that this is going to be easy.

    Any and all advice will be GREATLY appreciated.
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  2. Posts : 644
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #2

    graywoulf said:
    With consideration to the problems I am having with Win 7 HP, and after all of the helpful suggestions on my other threads, I am considering upgrading to Win 10 Home on my Dell Inspiron 17 laptop. I am sure that the laptop can handle this upgrade but I have a question or two about doing this.

    I just did a complete backup using the Windows backup utility and I have read that I can install Win 10 and be able to do a restore from Win 7. I would like someone to confirm this if possible.

    I also would like to know if the backup does contain all of my files including all documents, pictures, folders and programs or is it just a system image? The backup used almost 850 gigs of my WD Passport 1T portable drive. At least that is my assessment. Windows Explorer reports that there is 83.6 GB left of 931 GB of the storage space available.
    Depending on the option(s) you chose, Backup & Restore can just back up you user files, back up user files and include a system image, or just make a system image. Which did you select? If you made a system image then you should also have made a recovery CD/DVD when offered at the end of making the system image. You can boot from this recovery disk to restore the system image.

    If you chose to back up files then Backup & Restore creates a backup set containing your user files in a folder on your external drive that has the same name as your PC. This will hold all your user files and photos, but not your programs. Windows 10 includes 'Backup & Restore (Windows 7)' which can restore your user files from the backup set.


    If you have created a system image there will also be be a folder named WindowsImageBackup. A system image includes everything from your PC, the Windows OS, your programs and your user files. But it is not possible (or at least, not easy) to recover individual files from a system image.

    I'm honestly not looking forward to this as I cannot possibly imagine that this is going to be easy.

    Any and all advice will be GREATLY appreciated.
    It's easier than you think, you can upgrade your Windows 7 to Windows 10 and retain your user accounts, passwords, user files and installed software. You have sensibly made a backup before starting, but you are unlikely to need it. All your files should still be there after the upgrade. See:

    Upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 for Free | Tutorials

    One sensible precaution would be to uninstall any 3rd-party AV before starting. Windows 10 has its own Windows Security AV built in, so you shouldn't need any other AV.
    Last edited by Bree; 29 Mar 2020 at 18:25.
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  3. Posts : 3,615
    Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
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    graywoulf said:
    I also would like to know if the backup does contain all of my files including all documents, pictures, folders and programs or is it just a system image? The backup used almost 850 gigs of my WD Passport 1T portable drive. At least that is my assessment. Windows Explorer reports that there is 83.6 GB left of 931 GB of the storage space available.

    I know that this copy of Win 7 HP SP1 was installed in 2013 so I figure that now that Microsoft no longer supports Win 7 and I could not download the ISO files that I needed to repair my original Win 7 OS factory installation that it is time to move forward. I'm honestly not looking forward to this as I cannot possibly imagine that this is going to be easy.

    Any and all advice will be GREATLY appreciated.
    Did you perform a full system Image? The 850 GB is most likely a full image. Mount/open the backup and look! What did you do the backup with? Hopefully not Microsoft backup!

    Read my last few posts on the other thread you started that I continue to respond to. I don't give up on computer issues easily!
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  4. Posts : 3,615
    Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
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    graywoulf said:
    I know that this copy of Win 7 HP SP1 was installed in 2013 so I figure that now that Microsoft no longer supports Win 7 and I could not download the ISO files that I needed to repair my original Win 7 OS factory installation that it is time to move forward.

    Wrong, that is why Microsoft has made it very very difficult to get a Win7 ISO, they want you to upgrade to Win10. As I stated I can help you with TeamViewer for a few minutes, depending on your download speeds!
    Snick
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  5. Posts : 3,615
    Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
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    Western Digital is not one of my recommended drives! Too many failures!
    SevenForums recommends AOMEI Backupper Free or Macrium Reflect Free as your backup software. I prefer to recommend AOMEI, it is a little more user friendly. They both have the same basic backup functions.
    AOMEI had a pro key giveaway but I believe that expired Jan 15th or so.
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  6. Posts : 44
    Windows 7 64bit SP1
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thank you kindly for your advice. As I have amassed a ton of files over the years, I still have 57 GB of HD space left which is not enough to make a new partition for Win 10 and have enough space in that partition to move my files. I still however have 83 GB left on my external drive so I can copy or move them to it before I wipe the drive and do a fresh install of Win 10.

    I have found a seller on eBay that is selling a brand new OEM copy of Win 10 Home on a disc that he guarantees to be the genuine article. Even though I don't usually consider buying such items there, I don't have much choice at this time financially speaking. The pictures and description looks good and the package does have the holographic sticker on it.

    My past experience with Windows started at 3.1 and has progressed from there which tells me that I should do a clean install. I know that I am going to have to re-install a lot of software because of the difference with the registry files so I am good with that.

    As far as the backup that I did, I did include the system image but I don't guess that it really matters. It looks like I need to clean out the WD Passport and use it to back up everything else I want to keep and then make a list of all of the programs I have so that I can re-install them after I install Win 10. I overlooked doing that backup as administrator and my Avast antivirus was active as well. And for some reason, one of the backup files has an extension to it that is associated with a graphics program I use. My recovery disc also has a file with that same extension so it is useless. I also could not get my laptop to bootup to the bootup option screen. I tried tapping F8 as well as hitting the F12 key as shown during backup. I think my Windows 7 OS is a mess.
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  7. Posts : 44
    Windows 7 64bit SP1
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Snick said:
    Western Digital is not one of my recommended drives! Too many failures!
    SevenForums recommends AOMEI Backupper Free or Macrium Reflect Free as your backup software. I prefer to recommend AOMEI, it is a little more user friendly. They both have the same basic backup functions.
    AOMEI had a pro key giveaway but I believe that expired Jan 15th or so.
    Unfortunately, I did use Windows Backup. The backup software that came with the Passport really sucked. I will look into the AOMEI Backupper and thanks for the tip. Good to know you are here and believe me when I say that you are very much appreciated!!!
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  8. Posts : 3,615
    Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
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    graywoulf said:
    I have found a seller on eBay that is selling a brand new OEM copy of Win 10 Home on a disc that he guarantees to be the genuine article. Even though I don't usually consider buying such items there, I don't have much choice at this time financially speaking. The pictures and description looks good and the package does have the holographic sticker on it.
    Why? You can still upgrade to Win 10 home for free right now. Your current valid key transfers!!!
    Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File) - Microsoft


    To keep your computer secure you can still update Windows 7 to Windows 10 for free, see our Tutorial at Ten Forums for instructions
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  9. Posts : 44
    Windows 7 64bit SP1
    Thread Starter
       #9

    OK, I clicked on the link you provided and I see this "To get started, you will first need to have a license to install Windows 10". Does this mean that I have to purchase a license or will it let me use my current product code?
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  10. Posts : 3,615
    Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
       #10

    Your current valid 25 character key if needed, I ran the tool upgraded and didn't need my key for activation

    Create Windows 10 installation media

    To get started, you will first need to have a license to install Windows 10. You can then download and run the media creation tool. For more information on how to use the tool, see the instructions below.
    Download tool now
    If you need to, use your win7 25 character key
    To obtain key run KeyFinder | Magical Jelly Bean
    You want CD key from MJB not Product ID
    I believe you can copy paste key
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