Install Windows 7 on HP 800 DM G4

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  1. Posts : 256
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       #21

    Interesting,

    this time I tried four boot.wim after deleted drivers folder.
    1. boot.wim from your 17514x64v30.iso. computer boot/started onto SIW2 WINPE! really no idea how could that be. should be MR WINPE. mouse/keyboard working. re-tested. same.

    next three no this luck. mouse/keyboard stopped working once MR WIN PE started.
    2. boot.wim from MR rescue generated on Windows 11 (I was thinking it had usb3.1 driver by default).
    3. boot.wim from MR rescue generated on Windows 7.
    4. boot.wim from MR rescue generated on Windows 7. another version when testing.

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  2. Posts : 16,466
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       #22

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    extract the 17514x64v30M.iso
    17514x64v30M.iso

    to usb stick using something like this
    Usb7ice.zip

    Install Windows 7 on HP 800 DM G4-usb7ice.jpg

    then look on the usb stick and inside the USBprograms folder run the get-macrium-files.cmd

    it will add your installed version of macrium to the usb stick

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    When you boot from the usb stick macrium reflect will be there on the desktop

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    Last edited by SIW2; 22 Sep 2024 at 12:13.
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  3. Posts : 256
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
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       #23

    Thank you, SIW2,
    You're the man!
    the 17514v30 WINPE is a magic tool. it finally works (as a vehicle of MR rescue disk).

    my first test failed. when SIW2 WINPE started, it pop errors, Dr2, Dr3, , , something missing. tried whatever couldn't make it go.

    then I made my 2nd test. when adding the installed version of macrium into the usb stick. it complained. WARNING below.

    Install Windows 7 on HP 800 DM G4-warning.png

    I kept moving on until the USB stick completed.
    When booting and SIW2 WINPE started from the usb drive, then slowing looking for USB sources, , ,macrium reflect was the last one there on the desktop.

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  4. Posts : 16,466
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       #24



    did you gather the macrium files from win10/11 ? It should be fine.

    you can also change keyboard and other things by adding entries to USBprogs.ini . That saves making changes to the .wim

    have a look at it with notepad


    Createlnk
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    _SUB Createlnk

    ENVI PECMD=PECMD.EXE
    ENVI EDIT=notepad
    REGI $HKCR\.wcs\=wcsfile
    REGI $HKCR\wcsfile\=WCS File
    REGI $HKCR\wcsfile\DefaultIcon\=%SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\%PECMD%,0
    REGI $HKCR\wcsfile\shell\open\command\=%PECMD% "LOAD "%L""
    REGI $HKCR\wcsfile\shell\Edit\command\=%EDIT% %L
    REGI $HKCR\inifile\shell\PECMD\=PECMD load
    REGI $HKCR\inifile\shell\PECMD\command\=%PECMD% "LOAD "%L""
    REGI $HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Environment\PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.NTR;.NTE;.NTX;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.WCS;.WC E;.WCX;.WCZ


    //sets keyboard
    exec !wpeutil SetKeyboardLayout 0809:00000809
    // enable firewall
    EXEC !wpeutil.exe EnableFirewall
    //SETS LETTER OF THIS PARTITION TO Y
    //LOAD %CurDir%\peusby.ini
    //WAIT 1000

    ENVI PECMN=%CurDir%\USBprograms
    //LINK %StartMenu%\AV\USB-Eset,%PECMN%\ESET\ESETonlinescanner.exe
    LINK %Desktop%\USB-Backupperx64,%PECMN%\AomeiBackupperx64\Backupper.exe
    LINK %Desktop%\USB-Backupper,%PECMN%\AomeiBackupper\Backupper.exe
    LINK %Desktop%\USB-PartAssist,%PECMN%\AomeiPartAssistx64\PartAssist.exe
    LINK %Desktop%\USB-Palemoon,%PECMN%\Browser\Palemoon-portable.exe
    LINK %Desktop%\USB-Dism++,%PECMN%\Dism++\Dism++x64.exe
    LINK %StartMenu%\DiskTools\USB-DiskGenius,%PECMN%\DiskGeniusx64\DiskGenius.exe
    LINK %StartMenu%\DataRecovery\USB-Recuva,%PECMN%\Recuva\Recuva64.exe
    // and more stuff

    ENVI PECMN=

    _END
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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    an internet browser can be added

    for example my usb stick is P

    so I extract palemoon to P:\USBprograms\browser

    NOTE you might need an earlier version to support win7 or a different portable browser
    Index of /palemoon/

    Install Windows 7 on HP 800 DM G4-palemoon-1.jpg

    then after it has extracted look inside USBprograms\browser to find what you want to create a link to

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    add the line to USBprogs.ini

    LINK %Desktop%\USB-Palemoon,%PECMN%\Browser\Palemoon-Portable.exe

    Here it is running in win11 pe

    Install Windows 7 on HP 800 DM G4-win11pe-palemoon.jpg
    Last edited by SIW2; 23 Sep 2024 at 01:41.
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  5. Posts : 16,466
    7 X64
       #25

    so its MR files should be obtained from Windows 7 OS C:\boot (although it's a dual-boot system).
    it checks first if MR is installed
    then it tries to find MR boot.wim in the %systemdrive%\boot folder from which the macrium files are extracted onto the usb stick
    if it is not present in the boot folder
    then it copies the needed files from %programfiles%\macrium\reflect folder onto the usb stick
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  6. Posts : 256
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #26

    the problem comes back again. same symptom on HP800G4.

    1. 17514x64v30.iso boot/start no problem. mouse/keyboard worked. (but this version no MR rescue)
    2. the revised 17514x64v30M.iso from USB stick. mouse/keyboard stopped working once SIW2 WINPE started. frustrated.
    3. then I retested the USB stick on an HP800G1 (NOT G4). its mouse/keyboard worked. (no any problem. weird).

    at this point, I re-made a USB stick. (thought this one was right like last one in new). however, it repeated the symptom. mouse/keyboard worked on G1 than G4.

    Has MR added something new into both my G4 \boot path and my USB stick? hence G4 has been ruled out?
    17514x64v30.iso, I am using ios version on ventoy. no this problem. (no write)


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Update

    I have removed MR from all my computers. feeling uncomfortable.

    MR's performance looked choppy/unstable during my test to make it working on HP 800 G4/G5. its reaction and response were strange, simply against my practice and endeavors. sounded it's monitoring and tracking my doing.
    it's reasonable to think, because G4/G5 are NOT supported by Windows 7. hence the Windows 7's MR NOT working on G4/G5. By inference, any computers NOT supported by Windows 11, would act similar on a day being clocked by MR.

    freeware may always behave this way. Hasleo was on my test list. I stopped it for the same sake. avoid hassle.

    I am re-taking system repair disks of Windows 7 and Windows 10. the latter one is more functional and useful.
    Last edited by siliconbeaver; 26 Sep 2024 at 11:09.
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  7. Posts : 16,466
    7 X64
       #27

    Has MR added something new into both my G4 \boot path and my USB stick?
    MR has strange behaviour.

    Before running MR

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    After running MR

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  8. Posts : 16,466
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       #28

    I am using ios version on ventoy
    ventoy can boot wim files with the plugin Plugin.wimboot . Ventoy
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  9. Posts : 16,466
    7 X64
       #29

    It means bootable wim files can be placed directly on the ventoy main partition, they dont need to be inside an iso.
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  10. Posts : 256
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #30

    Thanks,

    yes, that works. can simplify my test. main/root or ventoy folder both are ok. GPT or MBR, both are ok.

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    Update

    I did test using *.wim this weekend. focusing on when the KB/mouse stop working.

    since MR has been removed from all my PCs, while those rescue *.iso have been confirmed, were working but NOT working any more.
    how to obtain *.wim files?
    my test
    1
    17514v30M.wim from mounting 17514v30M.iso.
    KB/mouse stopped working when "Loading files" ends, right when Microsoft Corp start.
    2
    bootG4W7.wim from mounting MacriumRescueG4.iso.
    same as 17514v30M.wim. KB/mouse stopped working right when "Microsoft Corp" start.
    no more tests *.wim by mounting *.iso.
    3
    my NAS. there is a backup of \boot\marcrium, from time stamp, could be first day when install. I copied its boot.wim, renamed as bootMRW7.wim
    bootMRW7.wim in 1st test, KB/mouse were working under MR RE 3.1. that surprised me. at that time, my feeling had told me its next test would fail.
    True, it's 2nd test failed. Very frustrated. KB/mouse stop working right when "Microsoft Corp" start.
    I re-copied from NAS. renamed bootMRW6.wim (not same name) but my test failed again.
    by now, my guess, all tested files, *.iso *.wim have been "infected". couldn't work on G4W7 any longer.

    I am NOT sure how it happened. in my later test I had set test files "Read Only" (But I didn't do this at very beginning).

    • MR might access my test files and make them "infected". but that shouldn't infect test files on my NAS. unfortunately, test files on NAS indeed also NOT working any longer.
    • MR might lock my test file name. so next time will fail. well, I renamed my test file in purpose. still failed.
    • MR might setup hidden files on my C:\boot, to block/reset Windows 7 USB3.1/3.2 driver (already integrated into *.wim).


    I have no ideas. I have closed this project. given MR RE wouldn't work on any PC Windows 7 shouldn't support.
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