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Windows 7: Vista x64 upgrading to Windows 7, few questions!

10 Dec 2009   #1
Ufokrazy

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 
Vista x64 upgrading to Windows 7, few questions!

My brother just bought a windows 7 ultimate x64 from a near by retail store and he wanted to upgrade his currently installed vista x64. So the problem is that he wanted to install windows 7 by formatting the HD without needing to backup/delete his documents, videos, movies, music. It will be highly appreciated if some one can help out with the situation!!

Thank you


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10 Dec 2009   #2
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ufokrazy View Post
My brother just bought a windows 7 ultimate x64 from a near by retail store and he wanted to upgrade his currently installed vista x64. So the problem is that he wanted to install windows 7 by formatting the HD without needing to backup/delete his documents, videos, movies, music. It will be highly appreciated if some one can help out with the situation!!

Thank you

Hi and welcome

so he wants to format and not back up data. Does he not want the data, or does not want back it up?

Ken J+
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10 Dec 2009   #3
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Always backup any needed files before doing any upgrade, install or reinstall.

In order to format the HD before install, you need to boot from the Win7 DVD, select "Connect to internet during install" to get latest drivers/updates, then Custom install, then Advanced drive tools to Format the drive before install.

None of your files will be saved with a format install. Back them up first to an external drive. You will also have to reinstall programs, so gather those installers/disks first.

You can do a custom clean install by running the DVD from Vista which will save files in a windows.old folder for later retrieval, however you will not be given the option to format which is available when booting from the DVD. Plus installs can fail, so you always need to back up files.
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10 Dec 2009   #4
Kari

 

You have three possibilities:
  1. Custom (clean) install, not transferring personal files
  2. Custom (clean) install, transferring personal files
  3. In-place upgrade, keeping personal files and installed software

Method 1 is the easiest. Just boot with 7 DVD, choose custom install formatting the HD. Everything is lost, all the pics and music etc.

Method 2 is the recommended one. A clean install does not keep the installed software, you have to reinstall everything. Move your personal files and settings from Vista to Seven using Windows Easy Transfer.

Method 3 let's you keep all installed software and the personal files. Read more about in-place upgrade here.

Kari
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16 Dec 2009   #5
Ufokrazy

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Thanks for the reply guys......but the problem is that, my friend don't have any spare HD to backup his data in order to do a fresh clean installation. So is it ok that he make a new partition and backup data in that partition and install windows 7??
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16 Dec 2009   #6
Ryan2320

Windows Seven x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ufokrazy View Post
Thanks for the reply guys......but the problem is that, my friend don't have any spare HD to backup his data in order to do a fresh clean installation. So is it ok that he make a new partition and backup data in that partition and install windows 7??
I want to say yes..

As long as he does not format the entire hard drive..but just the parition..that Windows Vista is installed on to..it should work.

But like the other posts above I do highly recommend him to backup his data on another external hard drive or USB drive at least the important things..

Hope this Helps..and Happy Holidays..
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16 Dec 2009   #7
XboxOmac

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
 
 

Sometimes I don't think you need to back-up. Windows 7 should make a folder named Windows.old on your HDD.
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16 Dec 2009   #8
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

I would not trust the windows.old folder to back up my files. Yes, it is supposed to put all of the files of the old OS in a windows.old folder when you run the DVD from the old OS, however any install operation is risky.

You would be better off to use Disk Management to create and format a logical data partition at the end of your HD, label it DATA clearly, move copies of your files there, double check that they are all there.

Then boot from the Win7 DVD, select Custom install, on the drive map screen doublecheck that you are selecting the old Vista partition to format over and NOT the new DATA partition. Do not touch the new DATA partition, and as long as you don't touch it with the installer by deleting or formatting, it will not go away.

Now once you have confirmed again that the partition you have highlighted is the old Vista and NOT the DATA partition, go ahead and format it to get the cleanest possible install. Afterwards you will have your data all preserved in the new DATA partition you made.

This is less risky than doing an in-place Upgrade which is an inferior install and which can fail with loss of data.

Also, keep your ethernet plugged and select at the beginning when you boot the DVD to "connect to the internet" to get the latest drivers/Updates into the installer, check Windows updates after startup for newer drivers, then check your device manager to see if any are missing.

You can backup your Vista windows/system32/drivers and /driverstore files to your new DATA partition from Vista when you are copying your data, so you can afterwards browse there from the Device Manager to find any missing drivers.

Other drivers and apps will be available on your manufacturer's Support Downloads page for your model.
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16 Dec 2009   #9
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
I would not trust the windows.old folder to back up my files. Yes, it is supposed to put all of the files of the old OS in a windows.old folder when you run the DVD from the old OS, however any install operation is risky.
Very important point, can not be told often enough.

Kari
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16 Dec 2009   #10
lordvader

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Do i need to do a Windows Update
(ser pack 1 & 2, etc )
before installing Windows 7 Ultimate ?
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