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Windows 7: What is the "recovery partition"?

15 Dec 2009   #11
freewheeling

Windows Vista HP 64-bit, Windows 7 P 64-bit, Leopard 10.5.8, Windows 7 P 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Well that is a substantial performance problem.

Can you look at the detail I cannot see in the screenshot on the C: drive in Disk Management and confirm it is logical? Normally it would say so.
It doesn't say "logical" for the type, but the layout is "simple" and type is "dynamic." The same thing for the recovery partition, which is nominally part of the C drive, is layout "simple" type "dynamic." So that's for the whole drive, uncluding the "system, boot, Page File, Crash Dump" partition and the "recovery" partition.
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It may be unformatted simple volume.
The color coding indicates that the recovery partition is "Primary Partition" and the system partition is "Simple Volume." So the recovery section is a partition but is not a volume.

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Do you get "Modify: Set to Primary" when you righclick on C: in PW?

Was your Win7 partition part of the failed Spanned drive?
"Modify: Set Partition to Primary" or "Logical" are grayed out. No, Win 7 wasn't part of the spanned drive. I just used it to store recorded video.

It at least seems possible that the recovery partition is actually part of the Windows 7 OS, and that's just the way it sets up restore points? I'm just guessing, though.

One of the options for Disk 1 is Convert Dynamic Disk to Basic Disk, so I could undo the dynamic property, but I don't know what that would do to the system.


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15 Dec 2009   #12
SIW2

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A dynamic disk creates potential issues not least in a disaster recovery scenario. Dynamic disks are not appropriate for a system disk.

You would be better converting it to a basic disk.

Use a hardware controller if you must use Raid.
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15 Dec 2009   #13
gregrocker

 

How to convert dynamic disk to basic disk with Partition Wizard?

Be sure to back up your files, perhaps to the other HD.

Afterwards let us see a screenshot to make sure you're good to delete Recov and resize C: into that space.

The recovery is not a part of Win7, that would be 100mb. It is old OS recov. Tap the F-key given for Recovery on first bootup screen to confirm it's disabled.
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15 Dec 2009   #14
freewheeling

Windows Vista HP 64-bit, Windows 7 P 64-bit, Leopard 10.5.8, Windows 7 P 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
How to convert dynamic disk to basic disk with Partition Wizard?

Be sure to back up your files, perhaps to the other HD.

Afterwards let us see a screenshot to make sure you're good to delete Recov and resize C: into that space.

The recovery is not a part of Win7, that would be 100mb. It is old OS recov. Tap the F-key given for Recovery on first bootup screen to confirm it's disabled.
So, just for clarity, you're saying to use Partition Wizard to convert the C drive from dynamic to basic, and then give you a screen shot frow PW or from Disk Manager, or both?

I have an Acronis system image backed up on the 500GB hard drive, so I can presumably recover the drive using that... if I have faith in Acronis, which I've never used before.
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15 Dec 2009   #15
gregrocker

 

Sounds good.

Boot into your Acronis disk to try cueing up the backup image, just to be sure. Make sure it is discovered and ready to reimage, that's all.
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15 Dec 2009   #16
freewheeling

Windows Vista HP 64-bit, Windows 7 P 64-bit, Leopard 10.5.8, Windows 7 P 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Sounds good.

Boot into your Acronis disk to try cueing up the backup image, just to be sure. Make sure it is discovered and ready to reimage, that's all.
Acronis didn't work, and I haven't received satisfactory guidance from their tech support (such as it is) so I deleted the Acronis image and created one using the native Windows 7 Backup and Restore. Looks like that money I spent on Acronis was pretty much wasted.
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15 Dec 2009   #17
freewheeling

Windows Vista HP 64-bit, Windows 7 P 64-bit, Leopard 10.5.8, Windows 7 P 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Sounds good.

Boot into your Acronis disk to try cueing up the backup image, just to be sure. Make sure it is discovered and ready to reimage, that's all.
I got the following error message in Partition Wizard:
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"Partition Wizard cannot convert the specified dynamic disk to basic disk. Because Partition Wizard cannot convert any dynamic volume type except the simple or mirrored volume."
What now?

BTW, I just bought a 1TB drive and was planning to move the Windows 7 installation to that drive as soon as I got this "recovery partition" thing cleared up. Is there a way that I can clone the installation over to the other drive using Backup and Recovery without also cloning this "recovery partition" along with it? If I can do that, that would probably solve the problem. I've given up on Acronis.
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15 Dec 2009   #18
gregrocker

 

What is wrong with the Acronis backup? Did you try to cue it up from the booted Acronis CD? If so, it should allow you to reimage only the Win7 partition to your 1tb drive.

The only question is if it copies the dynamic format; I doubt it. You can always try anyway to see.

Otherwise, try the Win7 backup imaging app to see if it will allow you to uncheck that Recov partition when saving the image. If not, go ahead and save it, then cue it up using your Win7 DVD or Repair CD (it will offer to make) and see if it will allow you to reimage without it.
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15 Dec 2009   #19
freewheeling

Windows Vista HP 64-bit, Windows 7 P 64-bit, Leopard 10.5.8, Windows 7 P 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What is wrong with the Acronis backup? Did you try to cue it up from the booted Acronis CD? If so, it should allow you to reimage only the Win7 partition to your 1tb drive.

The only question is if it copies the dynamic format; I doubt it. You can always try anyway to see.

Otherwise, try the Win7 backup imaging app to see if it will allow you to uncheck that Recov partition when saving the image. If not, go ahead and save it, then cue it up using your Win7 DVD or Repair CD (it will offer to make) and see if it will allow you to reimage without it.
I can't get an Acronis boot disk to work, and it won't clone my system when run from the C drive. The drive is grayed out. I contacted Acronis (via online chat because they don't have phone support for lowly customers like myself) and they gave me some runaround about using a third party app to create the boot disk. (Something called Bart somethingorother.) I tried it, but it wanted to reference my install files and couldn't find them on my C drive or on my Win 7 installation disk. I spent nearly a hundred dollars on that package, and couldn't even get a customer support person on the phone. Like I said, I gave up on Acronis. I created a ticket asking for a refund, but haven't heard from them yet. It's within the 30 days.

So I created a Win7 system image on the 500GB WD drive, disconnected the 650GB WD drive (formerly my C drive), and booted to the Win7 install disk. However, when I tried to recover using my system image (which it found with no problem) it insisted on re-imaging the same drive with the system image. In other words, it wouldn't even recognize the drive I wanted to transfer *to*.

My take is that you have to create the system image on the drive that you want to transfer to, and then leave only that drive connected. But I don't know what happens when it re-images. Presumably it leaves the system image as a separate partition on the drive, so I'd end up having to fix that somehow?

Yes, it would be a lot easier if Acronis hadn't been such a pill of a company. Imagine selling backup software for that price ($70 for the basic package and then $30 for an add on to deal with dynamic disks) and then insisting that your new customers *buy* phone support?? What a nightmare!

BTW, transferring my Mac Leopard system to a new drive was child's play by comparison. That's what I'm using now because my Windows 7 system is in limbo.
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15 Dec 2009   #20
gregrocker

 

Check out Macrium Reflect which is highly recommended freeware around here. It will allow you to select which partitions you want to image, uses a simple Linux CD it will make to reimage.

Are you saying Win7 Backup Imaging requires you to copy that Recovery Partition with your Win7? Go ahead and do so if you want as you can delete it and recover the space if you can shed that Dynamic disk format.
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