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Windows 7: HP Laptop upgrade from Vista - 4 frustrating failures!!

28 Dec 2009   #21
SIW2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

1. If you just need to save an image of the 7 partition -from within 7 , go to Disk Management then rt click 7 partition and mark it Active.

2. Open an elevated command and type:

bcdboot c:\windows /s c:

then press enter.

Close cmd prompt.

3. a) You should find Windows Sys image GUI will allow you to image only C: partition.

Don't forget to mark the original active partition (which I assume is F ) active again once you have made the image.

OR , instead of a) open an elevated command and type:

WBADMIN START BACKUP -BACKUPTARGET:G: -INCLUDE:C: -QUIET

(replace G with the letter of the drive you want to store the backup image on)

Then press enter.


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28 Dec 2009   #22
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

You can browse the contents of the HP recovery partition ( and copy out anything you like ), by using the Paragon File Transfer Wizard.

It is available FREE on the Paragon Rescue kit Express ( that is a boot disc - so in bootable form only)

OR in the FREE Backup & Recovery 10 Free

Which is an installable app. that will allow you to image any partition of your choice - store the image in any location of your choice- and restore it to any location.

It includes the File Transfer Wizard, and you can also run off a boot disc with all the functions of the installed app.
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28 Dec 2009   #23
jecook

Windows 7
 
 

The automatic option to backup the computer says that the 160Gb Ext drive is not big enough, this is because it includes the C and F drives automatically. So I have to select which folders to backup manually in order to exclude the C drive, where I am not sure is whether manual selection of the F drive (W7) will be a suitable backup.

Jon
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28 Dec 2009   #24
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Usually you can mark the Recovery partition Active and boot straight into the oem recovery program.

Even if there is no .iso , often the installation files are on there and can be made into a bootable .iso with vlite, or similar.
Is there a way to test marking Active to know if it will work if Recov partition is kept? If so, can you bail out of the process after testing it so far?

Could marking recov active derail the boot?

The install files you refer to: full recov or just Win7? How would they be recognizable to OP if recov?

Hi Greg,

Often the F11 ( or whatever) key just hands the Active flag to the recovery partition.

It is a mini boot manager. Installing another o/s will overwrite it as it will be on the first track of the HD.

Manually marking the partition active achieves the same result.

If you continue with the oem restore process - obviously you are back to factory condition and it will hand the active flag back to the original partition as part of that process.

You can test it - just exit the recovery program instead of proceeding with the recovery. OEM's vary as to how their recovery apps work, and what options they offer - so be careful what you select.

If you can find the installation files in the recov partition - the same as you find on the dvd- you can make a bootable dvd from those with vlite.
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28 Dec 2009   #25
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

In that case , mark C active, do the bcdboot command - it will let you image only C.

Quote:
The automatic option to backup the computer says that the 160Gb Ext drive is not big enough, this is because it includes the C and F drives automatically. So I have to select which folders to backup manually in order to exclude the C drive, where I am not sure is whether manual selection of the F drive (Windows 7) will be a suitable backup.
[In fact it will let you image just C as a result of marking it Active. However, I strongly recommend you do the bcdboot command ]
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28 Dec 2009   #26
jecook

Windows 7
 
 

SIW2 - Looking at your instructions re creating a backup image of the Win 7 partition:
Quote:
1. If you just need to save an image of the 7 partition -from within 7 , go to Disk Management then rt click 7 partition and mark it Active.

2. Open an elevated command and type:

bcdboot c:\windows /s c:

then press enter.

Close cmd prompt.

3. a) You should find Windows Sys image GUI will allow you to image only C: partition.

Don't forget to mark the original active partition active again once you have made the image.

OR , instead of a) open an elevated command and type:

WBADMIN START BACKUP -BACKUPTARGET:G: -INCLUDE:C: -QUIET

(replace G with the letter of the taget partition )

Then press enter.
I am probably being a bit dim but the instructions seem to be for the C drive whereas I have Win7 on F, could you confirm your commands. Also by "elevated command" I presume you mean a command console window (the old DOS box!)

Thanks for the tip on looking at the HP Recovery drive as well, I will have a ook at those utilities.
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29 Dec 2009   #27
gregrocker

 

SIW2 - VERY COOL!

I used WBADMIN START BACKUP -BACKUPTARGET:E: -INCLUDE:C: -QUIET to save Win7 Backup image of only C: drive to D: Recov partition. Then I saved it again to external G:

Just run a CMD as Admin.

Substitute the first letter given for where you want it stored, and the second letter for your Win7 drive. It will save just the Win7 for you.
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29 Dec 2009   #28
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

You are right - it should be the 7 partition letter- as seen by 7 when you are booted into it.

If that is F, then mark F Active.

Similar to the old Dos box - we don't have Dos anymore .

Type cmd in start search - when the familiar black box pops up, Rt click it and select Run As Admin ( that elevates it )

The command is then:

bcdboot f:\windows /s f:

press enter.


Quote:
I am probably being a bit dim but the instructions seem to be for the C drive whereas I have Windows 7 on F, could you confirm your commands. Also by "elevated command" I presume you mean a command console window (the old DOS box!)

Thanks for the tip on looking at the HP Recovery drive as well, I will have a ook at those utilities.
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29 Dec 2009   #29
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Glad you like it Greg,

I have to crash out now, so I leave this in your capable hands.

Goodnight all.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
SIW2 - VERY COOL!

I used WBADMIN START BACKUP -BACKUPTARGET:E: -INCLUDE:C: -QUIET to save Win7 Backup image of only C: drive to D: Recov partition. Then I saved it again to external G:

Just run a CMD as Admin.

Just substitute the first letter given for where you want it stored, and the second letter for your Win7 drive. It will save just the Win7 for you.
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29 Dec 2009   #30
jecook

Windows 7
 
 

I will use the utilities to have a look at the HP recovery partition and see if I can then extract the necessary to DVD. However given the successful dual boot install I figure that as long as I have the few drivers I needed from Vista backed up (i.e Vista Windows/System32/Drivers folder) can I just install from the DVD again on to the C drive and then remove the F partition/

I may have mislead you about the win7 backup, I did not notice the menu on the LHS of the window (and just went into the backup setup menu on the main page, so I am now looking at what happens if I try to create System Image, it is taking a long time, looking for a backup device which although I now have two ext 160Gb drives attached. I assume this is due to the fact that it is still trying to find a volume with space for both C and F drives instead of just F.
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