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Windows 7: Install All messed up - with Ubuntu - HELP

16 Jan 2010   #31
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nokoyashi View Post
Hi Robert,

Sorry it took me so long. I rebooted into Ubuntu with the Ubuntu boot DVD - that's the only way I could boot up Ubuntu.

I captured a screenshot of the partition but I could not connect to the Internet via my browser. I only used Ubuntu for learning Android programming and I never used the internet browser in Ubuntu. The partition editor basically only has "/dev/sda" as the one partition and all the info about it below is "unallocated". Is that good enough info or should I try to copy the screenshot to a DVD and tranfser it to Windows for sending it to you.

Thanks...Mimi
That's OK. I assumed it would take some time to do that. I don't understand, my Ubuntu has 3 or 4 browsers installed by default, not all like FireFox though, any one of which should have been able to surf the Internet for you. I used the Default Program Installer to get my FireFox installed, if that helps you.

Install All messed up - with Ubuntu - HELP-mimi_dell_1521_02.png

I still have unanswered questions about all the partitions, and as you noted, more than one "Active System" partition. Without the info from GParted, my best suggestion for you is to use the first 4 'sections' in this snap shot, and try installing 7 in the unallocated space? I am assuming you will not use the original "Vista Recovery" as you have install disks for both Vista and 7? Please correct me if I am wrong!!

What you will have is one Windows 7 partition containing all the necessary boot files so that when we update grub, you will be able to use the Grub menu to dual boot between the two.

You can use the 7 Install DVD to delete the two partitions: Partition the Hard Drive in a Windows 7 Install

Just use the "Delete" to remove the Recovery and OS ( C: ) partitions, then select the unallocated space for Windows 7 and proceed. If 7 doesn't install ... hope not ... you can install Vista (I know ... again) in the same partition and return to where you are now. But since 7 is going to install this time we don't need to worry about that!!

I will be here for the duration ... not going anywhere.




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16 Jan 2010   #32
Nokoyashi

Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 
Vista bootup DVD

Hi Robert,

Thank you so much.

I had a Vista boot CD made when I was installing Ubuntu a while back. I tried it and I had to supply a *pgf <or something> file for Paragon Backup 2010 to restore Vista (this tool took over at boot up time). This is with the Vista boot CD in. I don't know what that file is.

I had backed up my C drive using DriveImageXML to an external hard drive this time. That is equivalent of backing up my Vista, right? But unfortunately, I don't have a recent Vista bootup DVD that works.

How can I create a Vista boot CD?

Many Thanks...Mimi
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16 Jan 2010   #33
Nokoyashi

Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 
Will create a Vista bootup CD

Sorry Robert, I shouldn't be taking advantage of your help and ask for help on everything.

I am going to look up how to create a boot DVD for Vista Home Premium.

After I got a Vista bootup DVD, I'll follow your instructions to delete the first 4 partitions and reallocate them to be used for Windows 7.

It will take me a while. I'll keep you posted and hopefully I'll have some good news. If not, I can wait till Monday of course....i.e. if you are still willing to help.

For now, good night.

Many Thanks...Mimi
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16 Jan 2010   #34
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nokoyashi View Post
Hi Robert,

Thank you so much.

I had a Vista boot CD made when I was installing Ubuntu a while back. I tried it and I had to supply a *pgf <or something> file for Paragon Backup 2010 to restore Vista (this tool took over at boot up time). This is with the Vista boot CD in. I don't know what that file is.

I had backed up my C drive using DriveImageXML to an external hard drive this time. That is equivalent of backing up my Vista, right? But unfortunately, I don't have a recent Vista bootup DVD that works.

How can I create a Vista boot CD?

Many Thanks...Mimi
OK first for clarity: I am going to edit the previous post because I want you to use the first four 'sections' of space. there are only two actual partitions there to "Delete". Don't delete the Ubuntu partitions!

I don't have Vista. The 7 "System Repair" CD is here:

Install All messed up - with Ubuntu - HELP-create_repair_cd.png

You should have no trouble restoring your image.


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16 Jan 2010   #35
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nokoyashi View Post
Sorry Robert, I shouldn't be taking advantage of your help and ask for help on everything.

I am going to look up how to create a boot DVD for Vista Home Premium.

After I got a Vista bootup DVD, I'll follow your instructions to delete the first 4 partitions and reallocate them to be used for Windows 7.

It will take me a while. I'll keep you posted and hopefully I'll have some good news. If not, I can wait till Monday of course....i.e. if you are still willing to help.

For now, good night.

Many Thanks...Mimi
That's OK. Yes, please keep me posted. I will be around tomorrow afternoon (our time) and some on Monday as well. I'm here for the duration, until we get it done. And If you can't reach me, there are some 50 or more experienced members here that would be willing to offer their assistance. So no worries!

And that is the first 4 'sections' in the picture, only 2 actual partitions to "Delete" ...

Good night
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17 Jan 2010   #36
Nokoyashi

Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 
"Sections" / "Partitions" ?

Hi Robert,

On the Vista Disk Management picture that we've been looking at, I don't see the word "Section". I only see the word "Volume" as the 1st column name of the table on the upper part of the picture and there are 7 rows on that table.

Which 4 sections (= 2 partitions) am I deleting? By "sections", did you mean the first 3 lines on the table under the column "Volume" which are blank? And, the fourth section with the Volume name "MEDIADIRECT (F?

If so, how do I know that they are of 2 partitions? Which of the partition is Ubuntu's that I should not delete?

Please clarify for me a bit.

Many Thanks...Mimi
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17 Jan 2010   #37
Nokoyashi

Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 
Minor correction - 6 rows (Volumes)

Per my previous posting, it is 6 rows rather than 7 rows. I was seeing 7 rows because I found my manufacturer Vista DVD and was trying it out on my DVD drive at the time.

Yes, I think I should be all set in terms of having the original manufacturer Vista Install DVD. I also backed up all the files that I want to keep.

And, I have the Windows 7 Ultimate DVD.

I'll wait to delete anything because I am not clear about "Section" vs "Partition" and how to tell for sure which partition has Ubuntu.

Many Thanks...Mimi
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17 Jan 2010   #38
Nokoyashi

Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 
Deleting Ubuntu

Hi Robert,

Come to think of it, I want to uninstall and delete Ubuntu altogether from my laptop and use all resources for Windows 7.

I'll install Ubuntu some place else.

Will that make life easier for me?

If so, I'll start digging on how to do that.

Many Thanks...Mimi
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17 Jan 2010   #39
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 
How to remove Linux & install Windows.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nokoyashi View Post
Hi Robert,

Come to think of it, I want to uninstall and delete Ubuntu altogether from my laptop and use all resources for Windows 7.

I'll install Ubuntu some place else.

Will that make life easier for me?

If so, I'll start digging on how to do that.

Many Thanks...Mimi
Robert is working very hard with good sound advice.

Some reading for you.

How to Remove Linux and Install Windows XP
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17 Jan 2010   #40
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nokoyashi View Post
Yes, I think I should be all set in terms of having the original manufacturer Vista Install DVD. I also backed up all the files that I want to keep. And, I have the Windows 7 Ultimate DVD.
This is all good. You have an "Image" saved and all your files backed up, Vista and 7 install DVDs.

Question: Is your 7 Ultimate a full version or an upgrade version?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nokoyashi View Post
Come to think of it, I want to uninstall and delete Ubuntu altogether from my laptop and use all resources for Windows 7. I'll install Ubuntu some place else. Will that make life easier for me? If so, I'll start digging on how to do that.

Many Thanks...Mimi
Yes, if you have saved all your files it would be much simplier to not have to deal with all the extraneous partitions. You can always reinstall Ubuntu afterwards, version 9.10 is available with an updated version of Grub2 that should make it easier to dual boot with Ubuntu.

If I may suggest, the "SystemRescue" CD here: Hard Drive Partitions - Changing with GParted has a copy of GParted capable of managing Windows partitions. If you are going to use Ubuntu, then this tool will be helpful. I woke up this morning thinking the GParted you were using in Ubuntu probably did not have the Windows file systems added to it so that is why you were only seeing the one partition "/dev/sda". If you are prepaired to remove everything but Windows, get the "iso" file as described and use Vista to burn it to a CD. Then boot to it and use GParted to delete everything here marked with an "X", extend the C: partition all the way to the left (to the beginning of the drive) and leave the rest of the unallocated space at the end of the drive:

Install All messed up - with Ubuntu - HELP-mimi_dell_1521_03.png

Yes, you are absolutly correct, I was using very un-computer techie wording calling the spaces in the picture 'sections'. Sorry. The "Volumes" are another name for "Partitions" and yes, there are 6. I numbered what I was refering to as 'sections' for clarity, there are 8 counting the two "unalocated" spaces.

If your Ultimate 7 is an upgrade disk, you will want to start the install from Vista, then follow the "Custom" install path as pictured here: Custom Install Windows 7

If your Ultimate 7 is a full version disk, then boot to the install DVD and follow the "Custom" install path.

I will be back this afternoon ... see you then.


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