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Windows 7: ssd for OS and 2hdd on raid0

16 Jan 2010   #11
giegaand1

windows 7
 
 

i found this one
The new Samsung firmware for P-Series SSD's! - The Corsair Support Forums
so probably it doesnt apply to my ssd ???


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16 Jan 2010   #12
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

if you have one of those ( Corsair P64, P128, and P256 drives ), I guess you could use it - but it is only a Beta, so you may want to wait a little. The RAID you can set off. For your HDDs it does not buy you so much once the system is on the SSD. AND, Raid0 has risks when one of the HDDs fails. Since the data is striped, you loose everything. I would rather put all the data on one HDD and frequently image to the other (including the system from the SSD. I do that and it takes only 3.5 minutes for the system and 7 minutes for the system and data together. I use this: https://www.sevenforums.com/software/...e-macrium.html
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17 Jan 2010   #13
giegaand1

windows 7
 
 

thanks to everyone, so better i will do in this way: OS to SSD and two HDD i will leave like it is (no RAID0).
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18 Jan 2010   #14
giegaand1

windows 7
 
 

hy again, i found in internet that ICH10R controller is much better than JMB322. im thinking about raid0 in GSATA controller (my two HDD 500gb) how it will affect my pc performance? does it will slow it down? thank you
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18 Jan 2010   #15
Pauly

Win7 Ultimate X64
 
 

I tried my raid on both and didnt notice any difference.
I went with the gsata because when enabled raid on intel controller gave me issues with other sata devices, cant remember exactly what went wrong but found it was better to enable raid on the controller with two plugs with the two raid drives connected leaving all the other sata ports for all other devices in normal mode
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19 Jan 2010   #16
giegaand1

windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Pauly View Post
I tried my raid on both and didnt notice any difference.
I went with the gsata because when enabled raid on intel controller gave me issues with other sata devices, cant remember exactly what went wrong but found it was better to enable raid on the controller with two plugs with the two raid drives connected leaving all the other sata ports for all other devices in normal mode
this is a good news.i will try to do like you said on your first post. i checked my ssd with CrystalDiskInfo and it saying that i have TRIM on my ssd so i will not start updating my firmware. but i still have few questions:
1. witch configuration i need to use for my SSD? IDE or AHCI?
2. why windows doesnt show my SSD, in device manager it appears, but not in my computer. in bios it appears as well.
3. does it make difference if i will connect my SSD to SATA2_0 or to SATA2_1 or SATA2_5? i mean i have only SATA2_5 not in use so i can connect my ssd to this one or it must be connected to first one SATA2_0.

in my bios there is two places where i can configure my sata controllers. MY mobo is ga-ex58-ud5. first is main one where i can set up AHCI or RAID, called SATA RAID/AHCI Mode and the second one called Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode
in there i can choose between two options IDE or AHCI, so i need a bit of help setting them up please. Thank you again, your info helping me a lot.
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19 Jan 2010   #17
Pauly

Win7 Ultimate X64
 
 

1. AHCI
2.If it appears in bios the computer is recognising it. Have you formatted it yet? Go into disk management (right click my computer>manage) then find drive and do what you need to ie partition/format/assign drive letter etc
3.I always plug my primary HDD for OS into first sata port ie SATA 2_0 was told to do this years ago and always have done (but to be honest dont know if it matters or makes a difference)

The two sections in your bios refer to the two sata controllers on your MB ie sata2_X or gsata, top one SATA RAID/AHCI Mode concerns the six sata 2 ports which is the intel ICH10 controller and the Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode concerns the two gsata ports which is the JMicron controller

On my gigabyte mobo the gsata options are AHCI or RAID/IDE, this controller covers the single IDE channel as well as the two sata ports so if you setup raid here you will need to select the RAID/IDE option.

Getting back to my earlier post the reason i use the gsata ports is because i also use an old IDE HDD for backups away from my raid array so i had to set this option to RAID/IDE to enable the IDE channel otherwise the disk isnt recognised, so i also used this for the raid as otherwise i would have had to have both controllers set to raid which my esata (external drive) didnt like very much becoming temperamental but if you dont have any IDE stuff in your comp then you could use the other if you prefer dont think it will make much difference other than that the intel may receive better support (drivers/updates)


Hope this helps
Any probs or question post back
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19 Jan 2010   #18
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

You should be able able to find out what firmware is available and which you need from the official site.

I too am unfamiliar with samsung, but if anything like OCZ, theres a firmware that supports TRIM.

However, if you have and drives in RAID, then you must use another version of firmware which does not support TRIM, but allows garbage collection.

theres also non-destructive & destructive flashes meaning some can be flashed to a newer version without harming any data on the drive, other versions will destroy all forcing a clean install.
Search the official site to find out for sure.

As far as installing the OS I would suggest:
1. Connect the SSd to SATA port 0 or 1 (however your board labls it)
2. Dosconnect ALL drives except the SSD & your CD/DVD drive
3. Install Windows (AHCI mode if you can)
4. Shut down and reconnect your other spinning drives. leave a SATA port free between them to prevent any possible cross talk if you can.
I/e SSd Port 0 // HD 1 = Port 2 HD 2 =Port 3 or 4
CD/DVD Drive in very last SATA port (5 or 6 however it labels them)

I would also disable Windows Defrag schedule/ and defragmenter.
you may also want to disable Indexing, And prefetching and these are not needed for SSd and actually slow them down more than help.

Also, if the Samsuing works like the OSC Vertex, turn off Windows write cache buffer on the SSD will ghelp improve perf. a bit more.
I do not know if the SAMSUNG works the same way, but It very well may. the OCZ have a 64MB cache, and are able to flush thier own buffer if theres a power failure to prevent DATA loss. Check if your is capable of the same before you do this. My guess is it is, as most newer SSds, but just a guess.

Wish i could offer more definative advice, but I know little of the Samsung SSDs
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19 Jan 2010   #19
giegaand1

windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Pauly View Post
1. AHCI
2.If it appears in bios the computer is recognising it. Have you formatted it yet? Go into disk management (right click my computer>manage) then find drive and do what you need to ie partition/format/assign drive letter etc
3.I always plug my primary HDD for OS into first sata port ie SATA 2_0 was told to do this years ago and always have done (but to be honest dont know if it matters or makes a difference)

Hope this helps
Any probs or question post back
you are top guy, thank you a lot..... i did what you said and now windows showing my ssd in my computer, sorted !!! thanks for other answers as well. This weekend i will try to install win7 to my ssd. Just to clear everything up : SATA RAID/AHCI Mode needs to be AHCI for my ssd. (i will use SATA2_0 to connect my ssd to mobo) Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode needs to be RAID/IDE (i will connect my other two hdd to GSATA2_0 and GSATA2_1). i think this option gonna be the best choose for my system, maybe you have some better ideas what to do with my ssd and hdd?
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19 Jan 2010   #20
giegaand1

windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
far as installing the OS I would suggest:
1. Connect the SSd to SATA port 0 or 1 (however your board labls it)
2. Dosconnect ALL drives except the SSD & your CD/DVD drive
3. Install Windows (AHCI mode if you can)
4. Shut down and reconnect your other spinning drives. leave a SATA port free between them to prevent any possible cross talk if you can.
I/e SSd Port 0 // HD 1 = Port 2 HD 2 =Port 3 or 4
CD/DVD Drive in very last SATA port (5 or 6 however it labels them)

I would also disable Windows Defrag schedule/ and defragmenter.
you may also want to disable Indexing, And prefetching and these are not needed for SSd and actually slow them down more than help.
thank you as well, good info. so if CrystalDiskinfo shows that my ssd supporting TRIM it mean that actually this function is already installed and working in my SSD or it means that my ssd only support it.


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